Category: 1983-1987 Parliament

  • Mr Major’s Written Parliamentary Answer on Job Start Allowances – 30 January 1987

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s written Parliamentary Answer on Job Start Allowances on 30th January 1987.


    Mr. Frank Cook Asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether people who take low-paid employment in anticipation of qualifying for job start allowances but who fail to so qualify will, if they leave their job, be treated as voluntarily unemployed and so risk having their unemployment benefit suspended for 13 weeks.

    Mr. Major I have nothing to add to my reply to the hon. Member on 18 November 1986 at column 150.

  • Mr Major’s Written Parliamentary Answer on Invalid Care Allowance – 30 January 1987

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s written Parliamentary Answer on Invalid Care Allowance on 30th January 1987.


    Mr. Frank Cook Asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if married and cohabiting women who now qualify for invalid care allowance, and who qualify for back-dating of that allowance, will automatically be credited in arrears with class 1 national insurance credits to the date when their period of entitlement to invalid care allowance is commenced.

    Mr. Major Yes, subject to the usual provision that married women are not entitled to credits if they have chosen to pay reduced rate national insurance contributions.

  • Mr Major’s Written Parliamentary Answer on National Insurance – 29 January 1987

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s written Parliamentary Answer on National Insurance on 29th January 1987.


    Dr. McDonald Asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will estimate the revenue effect of the national insurance contribution ceiling for employees being abolished for 1987-88.

    Mr. Major It is estimated that if the upper earnings limit for employees’ class 1 national insurance contributions were abolished in 1987-88, but retained for the contracted out rebate, the additional contribution for the full year would be £930 million.

    This figure is based on the assumptions used in the “Report by the Government Actuary on the drafts of the Social Security Benefits Up-rating (No. 2) Order 1986 and the Social Security (Contributions, Re-rating) (No. 2) Order 1986”.

  • Mr Major’s Written Parliamentary Answer on the Mobility Allowance – 29 January 1987

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s written Parliamentary Answer on the Mobility Allowance on 29th January 1987.


    Mr. Wareing Asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations he has received proposing the payment of mobility allowance to deaf-blind people; what his response has been; and if he will make a statement.

    Mr. Major Some deaf-blind people already receive mobility allowance. We have, however, had recent representations in support of proposals by the Disability Alliance to widen the eligibility criteria for mobility allowance, specifically to assist deaf-blind people among others. These proposals are still under consideration whilst the detailed implications are being clarified in discussion with representatives of the Disability Alliance.

  • Mr Major’s Written Parliamentary Answer on Social and Community Planning Research – 29 January 1987

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s written Parliamentary Answer on Social and Community Planning Research on 29th January 1987.


    Mr. Madden Asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when his Department commissioned Social and Community Planning Research to carry out a survey into how people manage when they are unemployed; when the survey started; how many people have been interviewed to date; when the survey is to be completed; what is to be the total sample; in what regions of the United Kingdom people are being interviewed; how long an average interview takes; how many people have been invited to participate; how many have refused, either prior to being interviewed, or when the interviewer called; how many interviewers are employed on the survey and how they are recruited; what is the total cost of the survey; and if he will place a copy of the survey questionnaire in the Library.

    Mr. Major Social and Community Planning research (SCPR) was commissioned on 4 July 1986 to carry out interviews on behalf of the Department in connection with a study designed to find out about the incomes and experiences of people while employed and unemployed. The sample for the survey will be taken from people who become unemployed over a four-week period in March 1987, drawn from a representative sample of about one in 10 unemployment benefit offices in all regions in Great Britain, and interviews will take place in May.

    It is hoped to achieve completed interviews for about 1,800 men and 1,250 women. The study will be very similar to an earlier DHSS study which looked at a sample of men becoming unemployed in 1978. The report of that study (“For Richer for Poorer”, HMSO 1984) is available in the Library, as are several working papers.

    Participation by those selected for interview will be voluntary and they will be given written assurances that whatever they say will be anonymous and that whether they take part or not will have no effect on any claim to benefit they may make. SCPR has carried out a pilot exercise to test the questionnaire and the sampling mechanisms and the questionnaire will be amended as a result. As the study is still in its formative stages, I am unable to be more specific in response to the hon. Member’s other points.

  • Mr Major’s Written Parliamentary Answer on Disabled Persons – 29 January 1987

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s written Parliamentary Answer on Disabled Persons on 29th January 1987.


    Mr. Rowe Asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what information he has as to how many local authorities’ social services departments take responsibility for the adaptation of premises for disabled persons;
    (2) what information he has about differences in practice between local authorities as regards the use of housing department funds, on the one hand, and social service department funds, on the other, to support the adaptation of premises for disabled people; and what is his assessment of the implications of such differences for the achievement of a consistent national policy in this field.

    Mr. Major Social services authorities have a duty, under section 2(1)(e) of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970, to make arrangements for the provision of assistance with, or arranging for the carrying out of, works of adaptation to the home of any disabled person who is ordinarily resident in their area, when they are satisfied that this is necessary in order to meet that person’s needs.

    Local housing authorities have powers under existing housing legislation, notably the Housing Act 1985, to improve or adapt properties in their own housing stock. They also have powers under the same legislation to make home improvement grants to owner-occupiers, landlords and tenants to help meet the cost of such adaptations.

    In the light of these provisions, it is for the local authorities concerned to decide how in practice housing adaptations for disabled people should be funded in their area. The responsibility for such funding, both for local authority and non-local authority housing, will vary from area to area. The most recent available annual figures show that 102 out of 107 local social services authorities had assisted with adaptations to non-local authority property and 47 had also assisted with adaptations to local authority property.

    We have no reason to believe that different arrangements in different local authority areas constitute, in themselves, any impediment to the provision of assistance to disabled people.

    Mrs. Shields Asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he intends to lay the commencement order for the Disabled Persons (Services Consultation and Representation) Act 1986.

    Mr. Major I have nothing to add to my reply to the hon. Members for Roxburgh and Berwickshire (Mr. Kirkwood) and for Caernarfon (Mr. Wigley) on 26 November 1986 at column 289.

  • Mr Major’s Parliamentary Statement on JE Hanger and Co. Ltd – 29 January 1987

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s Parliamentary statement on JE Hanger and Co. Ltd, made on 29th January 1987.


    Mr. Frank Dobson (Holborn and St. Pancras) [by private notice] Asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the latest developments in the industrial dispute at J. E. Hanger and Co. Ltd., artificial limb maker.

    The Minister for Social Security and the Disabled (Mr. John Major) The industrial dispute at J. E. Hanger & Co. Ltd. has centred on the company’s manufacturing facility at Roehampton, one of 23 Hanger establishments throughout the country. There has been no sign of the dispute spreading to other Hanger establishments or to the other intermed limb companies Vessa and Kellie of Dundee.

    I understand that yesterday, following weekend discussions at ACAS, proposals for the settlement of the dispute were put to a mass meeting of the company’s former employees at Roehampton by national officials of the Furniture, Timber and Allied Trades Union and of the Technical Advisory and Supervisory Section of the Amalgamated Union of Engineering Workers.

    It is not clear whether the national officials recommended acceptance of the proposals, although they had resulted from discussions between the unions at national level and the company. In any event, the local work force apparently rejected the proposals on a public ballot at a mass meeting.

    Following this rejection, the company issued a statement that it now proposed to make alternative manufacturing arrangements to continue its service – although Roehampton is to remain the headquarters of the company and will continue to operate a clinic and repair service only.
    The Government’s primary interest is to ensure that a prompt and efficient limb service remains available to patients. Accordingly, last night I invited the managing director of J. E. Hanger to meet me this morning to discuss how this might be maintained. I made it clear at that meeting that I expected every action to be taken to protect patient service and clear the current backlog.

    In order to achieve this I sought and obtained a number of assurances this morning.

    First, it has been agreed that a joint team will be established immediately between the Department and the company so that we may monitor the service to patients and ensure that urgent cases receive priority treatment. This is in addition to the procedures I established last October.

    Secondly, I have received detailed assurances that alternative facilities are available to cope with the manufacture of those specialist limbs for adults and children that were previously undertaken at Roehampton. Such cases can, and will, be dealt with without delay.

    Thirdly, I am assured that the specialist spare parts facility at Roehampton can be replicated elsewhere within the firm.

    Fourthly, the company proposes to recruit an additional 80 staff throughout the country to maximise production capability, and this process is now well advanced.

    This is a very regrettable dispute that could, and should, have been resolved. It has delayed some services to limb patients, although such delays are not widespread.

    Any patient facing difficulty should not hesitate to contact his local limb centre or my Department so that urgent action can be taken to deal with emergencies.

    The Government will continue to regard the interests of patients as their first concern.

    Mr. Dobson That was a most unsatisfactory statement about a most unsatisfactory situation. It betrayed the continuing complacency of the Government and the pretence that, in some way or other, the dispute is not in any way their responsibility. I remind the Minister that the contract for the supply of limbs is not between J.E. Hanger and those who need limbs but between J.E. Hanger and the Government.

    Will the Minister confirm from his Department’s records that no fewer than 111 limb fitting appointments have had to be postponed because of the failure of the company until now to supply repaired or new prostheses on time, in breach of the contract that J.E. Hanger has with his Department? Will he confirm also that the number of patient attendances for fittings in the months affected by the dispute, compared with the number of attendances in the same months in the previous year, show that there were 487 fewer in October-November, 325 fewer in November-December and 145 fewer in December-January, giving a total of 957 fewer people getting fittings? Will he confirm also what I was told today, that the number of people getting primary fittings – that is, people who have just had an amputation and need a first fitting – has markedly declined? How has this reduction come about?

    Are amputees being kept waiting, or are surgeons postponing amputations that can be postponed, even at some risk to patients? Is it not plain, from the history of this dispute, that the owner of Hanger, BTR, which every hon. Member was convinced was totally unfit to take over Pilkington, has demonstrated also that it is quite unfit to have a virtual monopoly of the supply and fitting of artificial limbs for people within the National Health Service? [HON. MEMBERS: “Is this a question?”] Yes.

    Mr. Speaker Order. I remind the hon. Gentleman that this is a private notice question, not a statement.

    Mr. Dobson It is an important matter.

    Mr. Neil Hamilton (Tatton) The hon. Gentleman does not have a leg to stand on.

    Mr. Dobson We could do without jokes from Conservative Members about my not having a leg to stand on. This is a serious matter.
    When will the Minister, as a party to the contract for the supply of limbs, act to make sure that limbs are supplied to those who are entitled to get them? When will he talk not just to the managing director of J. E. Hanger? When will he show some impartiality and talk to representatives of the work force, to try to find a satisfactory solution to this dispute, instead of leaving them standing on the pavement when they would far rather be inside the factory doing what some of them have done for 20 years, and that is providing a good, decent and dedicated service to limbless people? When will the hon. Gentleman act and look after these people?

    Mr. Major I am in no single sense complacent about the difficulties created by the dispute. That is precisely why I set out a series of detailed actions to be taken last October. Those actions have been followed through on a daily basis since then. I regard the dispute as serious. I have made no secret of the fact that I wish to see this dispute resolved without delay.

    The hon. Gentleman’s figures are correct in broadly two cases out of the three that he cited. The number of appointments postponed over a period of 18 weeks is 112. That needs to be set against a total of some 3,000 appointments per week throughout the service during that period. There were about 420 fewer patient attendances rather than the 900, or so mentioned by the hon. Gentleman.

    I am not aware of delays in primary fittings of the sort set out by the hon. Gentleman. However, it is precisely to ensure that that does not occur that I have established the extra procedure that I outlined in my statement. I wish to ensure that primary amputees and those in special need are given the priority treatment which both the hon. Gentleman and I wish to ensure they receive.

    On the matter of complacency, if the hon. Gentleman cares to examine yet again the statement that I made in answer to his private notice question in October he will see a series of actions set out, which have been maintained, and I have built upon those today.

    On the hon. Gentleman’s final point, I have declined before, and I decline again, to take a stand in the dispute between employer and employee. I am prepared to discuss with those with whom we have a contract how they are to maintain the contract and meet it. That is what I am doing.

    Mr. Roger Sims (Chislehurst) Will my hon. Friend confirm that there are other companies which manufacture artificial limbs? Are we not reaching the point where their services should be used, rather than let patients suffer?

    Mr. Major I am aware of my hon. Friend’s point. I reiterate that I am keeping the matter under careful review. The service to the patient remains my first concern.

    Mr. Jack Ashley (Stoke-on-Trent, South) Is the Minister aware that he is wrong when he says that he declines to take a stand between the employer and the work force, because this is not an industrial dispute? The Government are the sole customer of this firm, and it is the Minister’s responsibility to intervene to obtain a settlement. A settlement could be achieved quite easily if the firm will accept the fundamental principle that no self-respecting trade unionist will go back to work while some of his fellow members are locked outside. That is what this firm is trying to do. If the Minister will accept that advice and intervene in the dispute, it can be settled, disabled people can be helped and they can get their limbs. He must intervene and not say that it is none of his business.

    Mr. Major I cannot accept the right hon. Gentleman’s comments. It is an industrial dispute. It is precisely for that reason that at this Dispatch Box some time ago I urged the first reference to the Advisory Conciliation and Arbitration Service, which has repeatedly been in touch with both sides in the dispute, separately and collectively since that time. I cannot determine whether the dispute can be settled. It was certainly my understanding that a concordat had been reached between the national officers of the union and the company, and that it was at the local work place that that agreement was rejected.

    Miss Janet Fookes (Plymouth, Drake) I have every confidence in my hon. Friend’s ability to deal with this dispute. However, I urge him to look closely at other firms which may be able to supply the goods and services, and, if they do not exist, he should encourage them to be invented.

    Mr. Major I am grateful to my hon. Friend for her remarks. She echoes some of the observations of the McColl report about monopoly supplying, and I take her remarks to heart.

    Mrs. Elizabeth Shields (Ryedale) Has the Minister arranged for someone in his Department to take a personal interest in the dispute on a day-to-day basis so that we can look forward to a resolution of the conflict?

    Mr. Major I can give the hon. Lady the confirmation that she seeks. Several officials in my Department have direct day-to-day contact with the company and with the hon. Lady’s proposition. I am receiving daily reports of the circumstances so that we may judge whether the dispute is capable of solution and take any action that may be helpful.

    Mr. Roy Galley (Halifax) Does not the dispute suggest a marked lack of compassion by a small number of workers and trade union officials for the least fortunate and most vulnerable section of our community? My hon. Friend is quite right not to intervene in the detailed matters of the dispute, and he has taken some positive and reasonable steps today to help further with the matter. I join my hon. Friends in urging him to take action soon to allow a greater element of competition in the contracting for this work.

    Mr. Major I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his remarks. It is my firm judgment that a solution was available yesterday and I share the regret of my hon. Friend that the opportunity was not taken.

    Mr. Alfred Dubs (Battersea) Is the Minister aware that many people in the Hanger work force are ray constituents? There could not be a more dedicated work force in the country. These people have dedicated their lives to helping disabled people to benefit from artificial limbs. What the Minister has said is a tragedy, because, in effect, he has announced that the factory will be closed and that people who require limbs will no longer have them made adjacent to Queen Mary’s hospital. Does that not mean that, inevitably, there will be a poorer standard of service for disabled people?

    Mr. Major My discussions this morning were precisely to ensure that the service throughout the country would not be poorer. If there is a tragedy, it is that a solution that was there yesterday has been rejected.

    Mr. Patrick Thompson (Norwich, North) Can my hon Friend assure me that the actions that he has taken, and the actions that he will take in future, will lead to more hope for families, especially families with growing children, who are being affected by this serious dispute? Can he offer hope to my constituents, the Elsegood family? Growing children need limb replacements at regular intervals. Whoever is at fault in this dispute, it is causing a great deal of distress and I appeal to my hon. Friend to do all that he can to bring it to a speedy conclusion.

    Mr. Major There is no doubt that in some cases this dispute is causing distress, worry and inconvenience – a dispute of this nature will do that. That is why it is imperative to have it resolved as speedily as possible. The people most seriously affected are those requiring primary limbs and those left without a limb. The emergency actions that we have taken ensure that people are not left immobilised. If any hon. Member hears of a case in which someone is immobilised, I hope that he will draw the case speedily and personally to my attention. Delays thus far appear to relate to replacement limbs, and although that is unsatisfactory, it is not as difficult a proposition as the unavailability of primary limbs.

    Mr. Lewis Carter-Jones (Eccles) Does the Minister agree that this dispute has probably more to do with McColl, the re-signing of the contract with the DHSS and the case now before the court about contracts? Does he not think that drastic needs require drastic action? Will he try to approach the chairman of BTR and tell him that this dispute is not doing his company any good at all?

    Mr. Major The whole House knows the hon. Gentleman’s deep concern in this matter and of his long connection with the British Limbless Ex-Servicemen’s Association. We admire his commitment to that cause. The reasons for this dispute are many and complex and it would be unwise of me to be drawn into them.

    Mr. Richard Holt (Langbaurgh) Will my hon. Friend take it from me that my mother-in-law suffered as an amputee for 10 years because of an ill-fitting limb from that establishment? I have had a long association with the Furniture, Timber and Allied Trades Union, and there is written into that union’s national agreement a binding arbitration system which ought to be invoked so that no more people are made to suffer because of the shortage of properly fitting limbs.

    Mr. Major I am grateful to my hon. Friend for those helpful remarks.

    Mr. Dave Nellist (Coventry, South-East) First, will the Minister condemn the Tory MP who, when my hon. Friend asked his first question, joked about his not having a leg to stand on? That lowers the tone of any debate on a dispute like this. Secondly, will the Minister confirm his first answer, in which he spoke about the company recruiting, I think, 80 specialist workers? Will he confirm that no Department of the Government such as the Department of Employment, is involved in assisting this company to recruit strike breakers while the dispute is going on? Will he say that, from its monopoly position, a well-known, vitriolic, anti-union firm, BTR, is trying to destroy the trade union agreements at Hanger and that in its lust for profits it is trying to make sure that these suffering, disabled people have to wait all this time for replacement limbs? BTR is the guilty party in this dispute and the hon. Gentleman ought to condemn it.

    Mr. Major It would not be helpful or productive to deal with each of the hon. Gentleman’s points in turn. He asked whether we proposed to employ fresh personnel. That is a matter for the company, not for me.

    Several Hon. Members rose –

    Mr. Speaker Order. I remind the House that this is a private notice question. I am sorry that I am unable to call any more hon. Members, but perhaps business questions will provide another opportunity.

  • Mr Major’s Written Parliamentary Answer on Artificial Limbs – 28 January 1987

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s written Parliamentary Answer on Artificial Limbs on 28th January 1987.


    Sir John Farr Asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps is he taking to improve the fitting of artificial limbs; and, in particular, if he will ensure that such fittings only take place after the stump has been X-rayed.

    Mr. Major A number of initiatives are under way to improve the fitting of artificial limbs in England and Wales. A review of prosthetic training for the longer term is in progress and, in co-operation with the limb firms, we are seeking to ensure that satisfactory arrangements exist to meet the needs of existing prosthetists for mid-career development and training. The centralisation and standardisation of prosthetic training at the London school for prosthetics since October 1985 has contributed to enhanced standards.

    We are seeking to negotiate with the limb firms new contractual arrangements which should help raise the level of prosthetic care. We continue to encourage the local fabrication of limbs, both to reduce delivery times and to ensure better fitting sockets, and new casting techniques. Transparent flexible sockets are increasingly used. We are currently negotiating service trials of the computer aided design and manufacture techniques developed by the bioengineering centre to improve socket design. We are planning revised transport and appointments arrangements which will enable prosthetists to spend more time with patients.

    The X-ray of a stump before fitting is appropriate only where there is some abnormality or spur. It is the complete stump, in particular the soft tissues, which must be addressed to secure a well-fitting socket. The process of matching the socket to the stump then continues throughout the patient’s active life.

    We believe that the steps we are taking will lead to a substantial improvement in that process.

  • Mr Major’s Written Parliamentary Answer on Occupational Deafness – 28 January 1987

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s written Parliamentary Answer on Occupational Deafness on 28th January 1987.


    Mr. Evans Asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will amend the Social Security Industrial Injuries (Prescribed Diseases) Regulations to enable employees who obtain a successful legal settlement against their employer for occupational deafness to be automatically eligible for industrial disablement benefit.

    Mr. Major There are no plans to amend the regulations as suggested. Different criteria govern awards of industrial disablement benefit and damages at common law; the question of negligence, for example, is not relevant to the industrial injuries scheme. The occupational deafness provisions have had to be strictly limited to keep the number of claims within the capacity of the audiological services. On the advice of the Industrial Injuries Advisory Council, coverage is therefore restricted to certain very noisy occupations. The scope of the scheme has been widened since its inception but any further extension must depend, among other things, on the availability of audiological resources.

  • Mr Major’s Written Parliamentary Answer on Social Fund Inspectors – 27 January 1987

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s written Parliamentary Answer on Social Fund Inspectors on 27th January 1987.


    Mrs. Beckett Asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on ministerial responsibility for the proposed social fund inspectors.

    Mr. Major [pursuant to his reply, 26 January 1987]: My right hon. Friend will be responsible for making persons available to the social fund commissioner for appointment as social fund inspectors, and for issuing any general directions and guidance on reviews of social fund decisions. The commissioner will be responsible for appointing the inspectors, arranging their training, monitoring the quality of their decisions and giving them any advice or assistance needed to improve the standard of those decisions. The commissioner will also report annually to my right hon. Friend on the standards of review by inspectors, and my right hon. Friend will publish his report.