Category: Prime Minister (1990-1997)

  • Mr Major’s Speech to the Institute of Directors – 19 January 1996

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s speech to the Institute of Directors in Birmingham, held on Friday 19th January 1996.


    PRIME MINISTER:

    I am delighted to be here on this occasion to have the opportunity of talking about some of the matters that lie ahead of us economically and some of the opportunities that are there for us to take.

    I had the opportunity this morning to reflect on these in a rather philosophical mode. I spent the early part of this morning at Ironbridge – the cradle of the industrial revolution. And there at Ironbridge, by innovation, enterprise, investment, sweat and courage, new industries were born and the world followed Britain’s lead. It helped in its day build an unparalleled prosperity for this country.

    As we meet here today we are in the middle of another more complex but equally important industrial revolution. It is one that will have a just as far reaching effect upon this country if we are successful in the way we approach it.

    Last year at this very same convention centre, I set out five core principles, core themes, for our future. Today I would like to elaborate, to concentrate, upon just one of them. But let me remind you what those five themes were: to build a nation of enterprise and prosperity, a nation of opportunity and ownership, to safeguard law and order, to deliver first class public services and to defend a strong, united and sovereign United Kingdom.

    All of those are important. But today I want to focus on just one of them, I want to focus upon enterprise.

    Not all that many years ago Britain was universally regarded as the sick man of Europe. We had over mighty trade unions, strikes brought the country to a standstill, inflation hit all time highs and nationalised industries cost the taxpayer 50 million pounds each and every week. Today that is all behind us and I for one never wish to see those set of circumstances return to this country again.

    What is true as we meet here at lunchtime, though it is unfashionable to say so, is that Britain is today building a platform for success that is outstripping more and more of our competitors across Europe.

    In our adversarial political system, and I make no complaint about the nature of that, but in that adversarial political system many have a vested interest in scoffing at our success. But they can’t deny the fact of it.

    We have seen the longest period of low inflation for 50 years. When inflation is there it is a mighty peril, when it has gone it is speedily forgotten. But I recall how it rendered us uncompetitive, how it destroyed our savings, how it brought this country almost to its knees in earlier years, and now we have the psychology of inflation under firmer lock and key than ever in my lifetime. I am proud of that and I have no intention of letting that lock go in the future.

    We have now got the lowest basic rate of tax for over 50 years, the lowest mortgage rates for over 30 years. We have more of our people in the United Kingdom actually in jobs, and fewer unemployed, than any major European economy. And I wonder how many people in this room can remember when last that was the circumstance.

    We have exports running at record levels. We have days lost for strikes falling to the lowest level since we first began to keep records of that. And Britain is the leading recipient in Europe of foreign investment. Indeed over the recent years we have received more foreign investment from outside Europe into the United Kingdom than has gone into the rest of the European Union added together.

    That is what Britain has achieved. It is not a negligible achievement. Of course there is a great deal more to be done, but the position that we have reached offers very great opportunities for the future provided the policies to take advantage of those opportunities are not thrown to one side and are followed through in the years that lie immediately ahead.

    I have no doubt about the key to that future. The key to that future is enterprise, enterprise at the heart of a free and prosperous society. With enterprise comes risk, but also reward. It creates competitiveness and builds prosperity and economic growth. Growth – a buzzword to some, but a reality for all our hopes. It is growth that pays for our national security,our defence forces, that pays for our social inclinations, our education system, our social provision, and so it is crucial for our future well-being.

    And it is for that reason, the belief that I have that we need growth with low inflation if we are to maximise our opportunities for this generation, this country and future generations, that leads me to say that I believe that what we need to do is to promote the opportunities of enterprise for the future. And it is because of that that the government that I lead aims to turn Britain into the unrivalled enterprise centre of Europe, not just in the short term but for the long term future.

    That will not be achieved without effort, it cannot be achieved by empty slogans. Britain can only do it if we believe in the values of enterprise and we then follow the policies that promote enterprise. Enterprise benefits society through the goods it makes and the services it provides, through the jobs it creates and the taxes it pays to support public services, through the contribution that businesses make to the communities around them. And it is worth considering that just for a moment. That contribution takes many forms, working to improve the local economy, to improve training, in Techs, in Chambers of Commerce and countless other local business groups, getting involved in local schools, helping voluntary groups, sponsoring sport and sponsoring the arts.

    Our businesses, in my judgement, enrich our society in every sense of the word. They don’t need someone to instruct them to do this any more than they need someone to instruct them upon how to run their business.

    But this enterprise culture, this opportunity, this belief in enterprise and all the wider benefits it brings, would be very easy to destroy. Vilify our businessmen for their very success, interfere on the grounds that the government knows best, make it impossible for them to earn a fair reward for their efforts, that would do it, that would destroy what is currently being built in this country for the benefit not just of businessmen but of all the people of this country.

    And there is an idea, passed on from generation to generation by a curious mix of the well meaning, the envious and the confused, that it is wrong for business to make a profit. What nonsense that is. It is about time not just the politicians but that business defended the need to make a profit in the common wheel as well as in the interests of the shareholder. Profit should be applauded, not condemned. It is not a dirty word except to the peddlers of envy. It funds investment, it generates jobs, it is not only respectable, it is essential for the future that we wish to build.

    If there is no profit then there is no enterprise. If there is no enterprise then there are no jobs. If there is no enterprise and no jobs then we will all be the poorer.

    Government has its own role in fostering enterprise. I am not in favour of unadulterated laissez faire. Enterprise depends on government to follow sensible economic policies and create the right tax and regulatory environment, and we Conservatives are tax-cutters by conviction whenever we have the opportunity. And when I say tax-cutters by conviction, when I look at the demands for the future, the demands that demand an enterprise system for this country in the future, I don’t just refer to income tax when I refer to the Conservatives being tax-cutters by conviction. Taxes on capital are like taxes on jobs. If they are too high it is not worth building up a business and employing people. And that is why I want to cut, and in due course, and I offer you no timescale for this, but that is why I want to cut and in due course abolish both capital gains tax and inheritance tax.

    Our opponents, playing their old game of the politics of envy, claim that reducing these taxes only benefits the few. But what that shows is how little they truly understand enterprise and all its effects. By denying businessmen and their families the rewards of their efforts, these taxes discourage enterprise, discourage job creation and discourage the growth of prosperity right across this country.

    This country today, Britain today, now has the lowest tax burden of any major European economy. Forty-two percent of our national income is spent by the government on behalf of the taxpayer. That is going on for 10 percent less than the European average. That gap is worth 60 billion pounds a year, the equivalent of around 30p on the basic rate of income tax. So we are doing far better than Europe, even our competitors admit it. Even Germany, for so long seen as the strongest and most competitive economy anywhere in Europe.

    But listen to what the Head of the German CBI had to say about the German economy just the other day: “We have too rigid labour laws, we have too high social costs and taxes. We work the shortest working week in Europe. The German government spends 50 percent of GDP as opposed to 42 percent in Britain – no wonder we have a problem.” That is the voice of modern Germany looking enviously at the situation that is applying in modern Britain.

    And I believe that 42 percent that we spend, that we the government spend on behalf of the taxpayer, still isn’t good enough. I want to get government spending down to below 40 percent of our national income in the first instance. We need to raise our eyes beyond the competition with our European partners. We need to compete worldwide where half of all our trade goes outside the European Union, with Japan, with the United States and with countries like Korea, Singapore and Taiwan.

    It is not just enough to have warm aspirations and to set soft targets. Controlling public spending requires tough decisions, determination and foresight. And here we have built up an advantage over our competitors. We have taken many of the difficult decisions and accepted the political unpopularity that inevitably goes with them. And I believe we were right to do so.

    Elsewhere that has not happened. Throughout Europe governments are waking up to the gap between the expectations of their citizens and the state’s ability to support them. And that is not some abstract problem. In France it erupted on to the streets. But we foresaw the problem and began to tackle it years ago.

    Let me give you just one of a number of examples. By encouraging occupational pensions we have ensured people’s security and limited the burden on the state. And as a result we now have in this country, in Britain, more invested in pensions for the future than the rest of Europe added together.

    And it is the same for the rest of our welfare system. Social security currently costs every worker 15 pounds every single day of the year. Until we began to reform it a few years ago, spending on benefits was set to grow faster than the economy as a whole, Clearly that couldn’t go on. Our reforms are now beginning to give us a social security system that is fair, that is reasonable and that the taxpayer can support, one which promotes incentives to save and be self-reliant – the values of an enterprise economy and above all makes it worthwhile to go out and get and accept a job.

    But there is no point giving people incentives to get a job if firms themselves cannot afford to create jobs. Too often in Europe that is precisely what is happening. Approaching 20 million adults in Europe, as we meet here today, are unemployed. From the 1950s onwards, in good years of growth as well as bad years of no growth, the underlying level of unemployment has risen across Europe. I believe that that is a problem that Europe dare not ignore and I have repeatedly raised this point at European meetings.

    When I say dare not ignore, I don’t just mean talk about, I mean determined policies that will actually encourage business to create jobs for the future. It is often said, not least by our political opponents, that we British are often isolated on some aspects of European policy, that we won’t accept the European consensus. Well I make no apology for rejecting consensus when that consensus in my judgement is wrong and not in the British interest.

    Our political opponents say it is tedious, nationalistic of us, to oppose signing the social chapter. They think we should sign it. I believe we should not sign it and I believe this because of the facts of what it is, but more relevantly what it would do to the prospects of people in this country, as it has already done for the prospects of people across Europe.

    And let me spell it out for you, because the campaign of mis-information about the cuddly sounding social chapter deserves to be exploded.

    At present unemployment in Germany is 8.5 percent and rising. France and Italy 11.5 percent. Spain 22.5 percent. But here in Britain unemployment is 8 percent and falling. It has been falling month in, month out, month in, month out for around about two and a half years.

    And why is it that Britain is doing better at creating jobs than the rest of Europe? In Britain, for every 100 pounds spent on wages, an employer has to add an extra 18 pounds for non-wage costs for every employee. But that same employer would have to add, not 18, but 32 pounds in Germany for every employee, 34 pounds in Spain, 41 pounds in France and 44 pounds in Italy. Why should entrepreneurs create jobs in those countries at that expense if it is cheaper to create jobs and more profitably in this country?

    Our political opponents try to denigrate our record. They claim those new jobs are temporary and not real. Well let me nail that lie immediately. A higher proportion of the workforce are temporary employees in Germany, France and Spain. In Spain almost one-third of the workforce are temporary, and that compares with 7.5 percent only of employees in the United Kingdom. And why is there that disparity? Because temporary jobs are higher elsewhere because it is a loophole to escape the costs of restrictive employment and social regulations. These are the sort of costs that could be imposed on British business if we ever signed up to the social chapter.

    Our opt-out that I negotiated at Maastricht, and to which I shall passionately hold for as long as I am in politics, that opt-out helps to protect Britain’s competitiveness at home and in Europe, and if we surrendered it that competitive edge would no longer be safe.

    In many areas proposals under the social chapter will be put forward for decisions by qualified majority voting. I have no doubt that if it suited them, others would find a way to blur what can be imposed by majority voting and what cannot. If Britain were in the social chapter we would have precious little say over which bits of it applied to the United Kingdom. We could not rely on being able to block proposals that we thought were damaging. To think that we could pick and mix if we joined the social chapter is naive and wrong. There would be no opportunity to pick and mix.

    Experience of negotiating in Europe has taught me that we must not just look at what is in the Social Chapter today, we must also look at what it can be used for in the future. The reality is that it will become the channel through which our European competitors could impose upon the United Kingdom their social costs, regulations and potentially their trades union laws.

    Measures on working conditions could be imposed upon us and what does that mean? A ban on overtime, the Social Chapter already producing proposals regulating paternity leave and part-time employment. And then there is consultation: huge numbers of decisions businesses take clogged up by harmonised European rules about who needs to be consulted, how and when, with the inevitable cost, delay and difficulty in making those decisions in the interests of the country, the company and the workforce and that would put a very significant spanner in the works of successful businesses.

    The fact is no-one knows precisely what the European Community might or might not propose under the Social Chapter or how the European Court would interpret it. It is a blank cheque, the thin end of a very dangerous and uncompetitive wedge.

    It sounds very attractive to some politicians, it sounds like painless charity. It may sound nice for those people with jobs but I believe that it is dishonest because loading costs and regulation onto business makes it more expensive to employ people and that means only one thing: employers cannot hope to create new jobs and might well have to scrap existing jobs.

    The Social Chapter should be seen for what it is – a European jobs tax, a tax on jobs by the front door and in time a tax on jobs by the back door and that is why I judge it to be immoral. That is why, if I had signed the Social Chapter, I would not have been able to look the unemployed in the eyes again. Europe needs more jobs; it does not mean more taxes on jobs – that is not in the interests of Europe and it is emphatically not in the interests of the United Kingdom. [Applause].

    I opposed the Social Chapter at Maastricht and I opposed it on principle. I believed then that it would cost jobs and not create them and I was right. I still believe it. Our enterprise economy is not negotiable, our economic success is too valuable to be wrecked by Socialist experiments.

    Let me say a word about our success at attracting inward investment. We are again here outstripping the rest our European partners but does anyone seriously believe that Japanese and American companies would still be coming here in their droves if we crippled ourselves with extra social costs as other people have done? I don’t think they would. Those companies bring not just jobs and investment; just as importantly, they bring innovations, new technology, new management techniques and the spur of competition and we must build on these skills but for that we need people who are able and motivated to learn from the success of others, people who can keep up with the pace of change, people who can dictate the pace of change for the future. I don’t doubt for a minute that the British nation are capable of that; they have the ability, the inspiration but it needs nurturing and above all, tomorrow’s businesses need a workforce with first-class education and skills, enterprise and education go together.

    Education is the raw material not just for a satisfying life for the individual but for providing the skills that industry and commerce will need in the years that lie ahead and yet for too long too many of our children were getting a very raw deal from our education system. It would have been very easy to leave things as they were to avoid a row with the establishment and with establishment thinking, not to traipse into that secret garden of education that was kept so quiet and secret for so long. We could have avoided change and avoided many rows but I believe it would have been wrong to do so, so we tackled the problem and we took the rows because I believe there can be no compromise on standards in education – our future and our children’s future is too important for that.

    Despite the scars – and there have been one or two – I am proud of what we have done in changing the education system. Thanks to the national curriculum, children are now taught the basics from an early age; now we are making sure we give our children the best possible start in nursery education; special literacy and numeracy centres will ensure children don’t miss out on the essentials; children are tested on a regular basis at 7, 11 and 14; exam results are published for all to see, giving parents the information they have always deserved but once did not get, essential information to exercise choice, a choice that now includes grant-maintained schools, city technology colleges so often sponsored by individual companies or individual businessmen, grammar schools, specialist schools and the whole system backed up by far more regular inspection and far more effective inspection than education in this country has ever known before.

    Look at what we have done in some of those aspects of education by establishing a proper framework of vocational qualifications and by introducing modern apprenticeships. For far too long in this country education was regarded as a matter for academics and not something that should teach practical vocational skills as well and the way in which it led to an artificial class distinction between white-collar jobs and blue-collar jobs in my judgement was wholly wrong and did immense damage to this country over so much of the last century.

    Look at the success also of investors in people and what the techs are now beginning to achieve. Look at the number of our young people who are now going on to further education, to higher education, to university. For many of my generation, that still remained an impossible dream. Today, one in every three of our young people go on to university; only fifteen or sixteen years ago, that was one in eight – today it is one in three.

    We are seeing a revolution in education, a revolution in standards, a revolution in achievement. Of course, there is a great deal to be done and I am determined to continue to do it but it could not have been done unless we, the Conservative Party, had been in Government and it would not be carried forward in the future unless we remain in Government to carry out and carry through the education policies that we have been following. Our ambitions for enterprise and the whole quality of our life in the future depend upon carrying those policies forward.

    I have spoken about how the Government is fostering enterprise but enterprise – important though profit is as I have acknowledged – is not only about that. The core of enterprise is not Government either, it is individuals, individuals with a special spark of magic, of imagination, of innovation, of a willingness to take risks, that “get up and go!” instinct that drives them to achieve what many other people believe to be impossible, often flying in the face of conventional wisdom, individuals inspired by a dream not of what is but a dream of what might be.

    We do well to remember, those of us who promote innovation and enterprise and perhaps even more so those who despise it and fear it, that it wasn’t Government that invented the steam engine, the telephone, the motor car, the radio, it certainly wasn’t the Government that built British Railways – it was Government and nationalisation that ran down the service of British Railways and once again it will be private enterprise that builds it up when we have finished the privatisation of them – and indeed, Mr. Chairman, I somehow doubt it was a government that invented the wheel many years ago though I have to say I can read the memos that would have come to me at the time explaining how the invention of the wheel would undoubtedly have destroyed jobs and how we should not maximise this new and startling invention.

    This spirit of enterprise isn’t confined to inventors who have changed the world, it is what has made thousands upon thousands of people every year set up in small businesses putting their security and their livelihoods on the line because they have an idea that they believe will work and they have that instinctive gut instinct that has always been in the British nation that they wish to set up something themselves, run it themselves, build it up for themselves in their interests and in the interests of their own families. That is a culture that we should encourage and it does mean putting aside another culture, it means putting aside the old culture of disparaging success and all those who aspire to it. If we wish to be a successful society, we cannot afford to be an envious society and we should turn our back on all those who preach envy whenever they have the opportunity. [Applause].

    I don’t interpret enterprise narrowly. It is not just a business culture, it is a set of values that can be expressed in countless other ways as well – and it is – in charities, sports clubs, schools, hospitals and throughout the public service. I wonder how many of the successful businessmen here today actually use those precise same skills on behalf of the community generally in some other way, in hospital trusts, in school governorships, in sports bodies, in arts bodies, in whatever it may be? I suspect a very large number use that skill for enterprise that is their profession in the interests of the community in other ways as well and it is a Socialist myth that enterprise creates a selfish and greedy society; it is a myth that society can only be made fair and just by bureaucracy meddling and corporatism; it is a myth that you can make the weak stronger by making the strong weaker.

    No-one disagrees in politics today that we have common obligations to help and protect people in our society who are vulnerable. The argument between the parties is not upon that principle, it is upon whose policies can create the wealth to do it. There is no point in having your heart upon your sleeve if your business enterprises are so unsuccessful there is no money in your wallet in order to meet the social obligations that all of us wish to accept.

    I speak as a Conservative, Conservative by instinct not by learning. Some people occasionally say: “What great Conservative philosophers did the Prime Minister read?” and I say to them: “I didn’t read any Conservative philosophers, I learned my conservatism in the back streets of Brixton when I saw how Socialism had failed the people who lived there and I saw the only opportunity for getting out of that was to give people individual opportunity and choice for the future and make sure that opportunity and choice was available to everybody in this country wherever they came from, whatever their background, whatever their income, whatever their class, whatever their colour and whatever their creed!” That is what made me a Conservative and it is what keeps me a Conservative and it is the only thing that is going to make this country great. [Applause].

    I stand for enterprise opportunity for the whole nation, one nation, undivided and whole, not one nation racked by false of devolution that will set one part of the United Kingdom against the other within immense damage to all of us in the years that lie ahead if such policies were to be carried through.

    Mr. Chairman, you cannot build such a nation – the nation of enterprise, of hope and prosperity, the inclusive nation, with everybody having those choices that I passionately believe they should have – on warm words and soft policies and no substance. You cannot build it if your policies are for the short term and not for the long term, you cannot build it if you will not take the decisions unpopular in the short term that you believe to be right for the long term but you can build it if you are prepared to make the decisions you know are right, to defend those decisions and to promote them in Britain’s long-term interests.

    I will tell you what I believe: I believe we are building a nation that creates prosperity by encouraging ownership, not ownership by the state extending its powers and right to meddle under the cloak of public interest, not ownership by the bureaucrat at the taxpayers’ expense but individual ownership through enterprise, shares, pensions, savings, homes and small businesses, the right to own and the power to choose. Those are the things that genuinely give people a stake in society for this generation and the next. That, I believe, is the way to build a nation that provides a ladder of opportunity and rewards success, a nation where there are incentives to work and a safety net for those who need it. That has been an intrinsic part of Conservative philosophy and Conservative gut instinct since the party had its founding days and it will never change. That is the Britain that we are building, the Britain that I care about, an enterprise Britain, a nation that is successful and of which we can be proud.

    If I had a single wish, it would be that the people of this country could see the success of this country, its values, its institutions and its nation, with the same clarity that the rest of the world can see the success and the values of this country.

    As we take the decisions ahead to build that enterprise Britain, some of them will be difficult. Not all decisions will be easy, not all the rewards will be swift but there is no choice. we must travel the enterprise road or we will fall behind those countries that do. The choice is very clear and I have made my choice. We will build this country as the enterprise centre of Europe and we will not be deflected. I believe in that we will be successful and I wish each and every one of you the same success in your individual endeavours. It is the amalgamation of those endeavours that will build up our nation.

    It is our job as Government not to carry out your job for you but to provide the opportunity, the economic background and the incentives to encourage you and not discourage you and prevent you from playing your part in building up this country and its enterprise prospects for the future. It can be done. We are outstripping others. What would be fatal would be if we were to let go of the policies we have followed for so long and that are beginning to show the clearest fruits of success at present; if we were to throw them away in the future, generations ahead would look and say: “Why did they do it? On the eve of such success, why did they turn away from the opportunities that lay in front of them?” I do not believe that we will. I believe that enterprise centre of Europe is being built and will be built and I intend to see it through. [Applause].

  • PMQT – 18 January 1996

    Below is the text of Prime Minister’s Question Time from 18th January 1996.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Engagements

    Q1. Mr. Pearson: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 18 January.

    The Prime Minister (Mr. John Major): This morning, I presided at a meeting of the Cabinet and had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in the House, I shall be having further meetings later today.

    Mr. Pearson: In view of the renewed speculation about the right hon. Gentleman’s leadership, can the Prime Minister tell the House what difference to his party or the country was made by his decision to precipitate a leadership contest last year?

    The Prime Minister: We have this silly speculation almost every week in which there is a Thursday. It has been nonsense in the past and it is nonsense now.

     

    Q2. Mr. Gallie: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 18 January.

    The Prime Minister: I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Gallie: Is my right hon. Friend aware that there are more shareholders today than trade unionists? Indeed, many trade unionists are shareholders. Is he further aware of the Labour party’s cynical plans to introduce shareholding for workers? Is not that a case of attempting to justify a tired and meaningless slogan?

    The Prime Minister: My hon. Friend is quite right about the growth in the number of shareholders and the fact that they now exceed the number of trade unionists.

    Mr. Galloway: Resign.

    The Prime Minister: Well, the trade unionists seem to have been doing that–that is one of the reasons why there are more shareholders than there are trade unionists. My hon. Friend the Member for Ayr (Mr. Gallie) is equally right about the slogans from the Labour party. As the hon. Member for Nottingham, South (Mr. Simpson) said last night:

    “It is amusing that Labour’s new slogan might be a long way round to rediscovering clause 4 and common ownership.”

    If the Labour party really believed in stakeholding and personal ownership, it would not have opposed every privatisation we have had–privatisations that have dramatically increased share ownership. The only stakeholders in their society would be the unions–Mr. Edmonds, Mr. Monks and their colleagues.

    Mr. Blair: Can the Prime Minister confirm that, on the latest statistics, since 1989, when the Government changes to the health service were introduced, the number of nurses has fallen by 50,000 and the number of senior managers has risen by 18,000? Is not that a mistaken set of priorities for the health service?

    The Prime Minister: The mistake is the misleading way in which the hon. Member for Peckham (Ms Harman) and now the right hon. Gentleman talk nonsense by distorting figures in the health service, as elsewhere. What the right hon. Gentleman clearly has not been advised about, or has chosen to ignore, is that there are more than 50,000 more nurses and 4,000 more midwives today than when the Government took office. They are providing effective health care close to where people live and work. Unlike the right hon. Gentleman, I take pride in the national health service and its achievements, and I very much regret that all that he and his colleagues can do is to take statistics, misuse statistics and try to run down the health service.

    Mr. Blair: We take pride in the health service–we created the health service. We just do not like it being undermined by the Conservative party. The statistics that I quoted are from the Department of Health. The Prime Minister said that an extra 50,000 nurses had been created. Will he confirm that if one takes the full-time equivalent of nursing and compares like with like, there are fewer nurses now than there were in 1979? Furthermore, has not the decline happened entirely since 1989, when the changes were introduced? Does that not show that one is the consequence of the other and that there is a mistaken set of priorities in the health service?

    The Prime Minister: The right hon. Gentleman is still distorting, and he overlooks the extra 1.5 million patients who are being treated. Patients statistics do not concern the Labour party. I will give the right hon. Gentleman a statistic that really shows what is happening in the health service–66 per cent. of health service staff are now involved in direct patient care, up from 60 per cent. only 12 years ago. That is because we have invested directly in front-line care and that is why more patients are being treated, and treated better and more speedily than ever before. I hope that, one day, the right hon. Gentleman will acknowledge the improvements in the health service, congratulate the people in the health service on making the improvements and acknowledge that we have repeatedly put more funds into the health service to enable those improvements to take place.

    Mr. Blair: I notice that the Prime Minister did not dispute the statistics on nursing. If he wants an objective view, why does he not ask the doctors and nurses in the health service? Does he not understand that many people fear that money is being pumped into bureaucracy rather going to front-line nursing care, and that they are angry that the party that the Prime Minister calls a one-nation Conservative party is breaking the health service in two?

    The Prime Minister: Yet again, the right hon. Gentleman distorts and twists reality to make his political point. If the right hon. Gentleman does not accept what I say, I advise him to listen to the hon. Member for York (Mr. Bayley), who told the Fabian Society,

    “Labour’s health policy will not look credible at the general election if we do not commit ourselves to matching the rate of growth delivered by the Conservatives.”

    Perhaps the right hon. Gentleman will contemplate that. The truth is that his party has no health policy. Labour lurches from one headline to the next and from one distortion to the next. Labour downgrades and runs down the health service day after day, as it moves to the next soundbite.

    Mrs. Roe: Does my right hon. Friend agree that one of the reasons why unemployment is falling is that British firms are now able to compete free from overwhelming union control? Does he further agree that that would all be thrown away under the Opposition’s plans for a stakeholder society, which would simply hand power back to the unions?

    The Prime Minister: That certainly seems to be the view of the trade unions, as Mr. Monks, the general secretary of the TUC, has confirmed. He said:

    “This country needs more influential unions”,

    and added that the proposals for new rights to representation at work also rest on the stakeholder idea. He is not alone. Mr. John Edmonds said:

    “I think ultimately we need changes in legislation.”

    The hon. Member for Brent, East (Mr. Livingstone) said:

    “Labour cannot govern without the support of the trade unions.”

    Just to show that I do not always quote Opposition Back-Benchers, let me quote the deputy leader of the Labour party–who appears to be missing. He said:

    “I am at heart a trade unionist before a politician.”

    And he is right. We know Labour’s heart, we know who pays for the Labour party, we know who owns the Labour party and we know what the leader of the Labour party is now about.

    Mr. Ashdown: When the Prime Minister’s predecessor, Mrs. Thatcher, said last week that his Government had lost touch with the hopes of ordinary people, whom does he think she was blaming?

    The Prime Minister: It hardly loses touch with ordinary people if one removes what wrecked their savings by producing the lowest inflation levels for 50 years, the lowest mortgage rates for 30 years, the lowest unemployment rate of any major European country, the lowest basic tax rate for 50 years, and the biggest fall in crime for more than 40 years. That is what my right hon. Friend, when Prime Minister, sought to achieve; it is what we have delivered.

    Sir Michael Grylls: When my right hon. Friend next meets his fellow Heads of Government in Europe, will he do all that he can to persuade them to make progress on liberalising the energy market within the European Union? Is not one of the Government’s great successes the fact that we have created a competitive market in the UK, and would not our firms benefit from a competitive market throughout the European Union?

    The Prime Minister: Yes, my hon. Friend is entirely right. While the single market has been an enormous success, both for us and for the rest of Europe, there remain areas across Europe where it is still not operative, and my hon. Friend mentions one of them. We shall continue to press to spread the single market to that area and others.

     

    Q3. Mr. Mullin: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 18 January.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Member to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Mullin: I am sorry to see that the bastards are plotting again. The Conservative party’s current difficulties are not the Prime Minister’s fault. He simply has the bad luck to be Prime Minister when the bills for the Thatcher decade are coming in. May I offer him a word of advice? He should offer members of his party not a leadership election but a general election. That would shut them up.

    The Prime Minister: I know that the hon. Gentleman has some experience of leadership elections. If I remember accurately, he ran the leadership election of a losing candidate in a previous Labour party leadership election, so although I take what he says with some interest, I shall not follow it to the letter.

    Mr. Mullin: He got 49 per cent., though.

    The Prime Minister: Maybe, but it was not enough.

     

    Q4. Mr. Luff: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 18 January.

    The Prime Minister: I refer my hon. Friend to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Luff: Can my right hon. Friend confirm that he will respect the constitutional freedoms of this country at all times and will not seek to undermine them by entering into shabby, shoddy backroom deals, like those promised by the Leader of the Opposition with the Liberal party, British Telecom and the trade unions?

    The Prime Minister: I think that I can give my hon. Friend the assurance that he requires without reservation.

     

    Q5. Mr. Ainger: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 18 January.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Member to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Ainger: Has the Prime Minister seen the figures produced by the Royal College of Nursing, which show that the number of nurses qualifying each year has fallen from some 37,000 in 1983 to only 13,000 last year? The resulting staff shortages have caused a crisis in our accident and emergency and intensive care units. Do not those figures confirm that the NHS is no longer safe in Tory hands, and never was, or is the Royal College of Nursing distorting the figures?

    The Prime Minister: I will just give the hon. Gentleman the figures. There are 22,000 more doctors than there were in 1979, and 34,000 more qualified nurses. It is not the Conservative party or the Government who have cut back on the health service. The only time that that has occurred was when the hon. Gentleman’s party was in office. He should recall that and bear in mind that the Conservatives have delivered increased investment to the national health service, which means better service, more front-line care, which is better and earlier, and a wider range of care.

    Mr. Key: My right hon. Friend will no doubt recall the excitement and pride shared by millions of children, including him and me, at the Festival of Britain, part of which for me meant visiting the capital city for the first time. May I, as a non-Londoner, assure him that it is unthinkable that the millennium celebrations should be held anywhere other than in our capital city, and that the best possible place would be Greenwich?

    The Prime Minister: My hon. Friend touches on a matter that may be controversial in the west midlands and elsewhere. The reality is that the decision will be taken by the Millennium Commission, independently of the Government, and it is therefore not appropriate for me to comment on particular bids or to speculate about the outcome. I am sure that many others will do so, but I will await the decision of the Millennium Commission.

  • PMQT Written Answers 17th January 1996

    Below is the text of the written answers relating to Prime Minister’s Question Time from 17th January 1996.


    PRIME MINISTER:

    Disability Discrimination Act 1995

    Mr. McMaster: To ask the Prime Minister what guidance he intends to issue to (a) Departments, (b) executive agencies, (c) non-departmental public bodies and (d) outside bodies and arm’s-length organisation which he has responsibility for, or an interest in, regarding the implementation of the Disability Discrimination Act 1995; and if he will make a statement.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Member to the answer given by my hon. Friend the Minister for Social Security and Disabled People on 15 January, Official Report, column 417. I will ensure that my office and those bodies for which I am responsible are made aware of their responsibilities under the Act.

     

    Civil List

    Mr. Tony Banks: To ask the Prime Minister what was the amount of the civil list in 1994-95; what is the projected amount for 1995-96; and what is the current assessed surplus over actual expenditure.

    The Prime Minister: As announced by my predecessor on 24 July 1990 Official Report, columns 299-300, and implemented by SI 1990/2018 of 12 October 1990, the provision of Her Majesty’s civil list is £7.9 million in each year of the current 10-year settlement. Surplus provision in the early years is designed to cover shortfalls in the later ones.

    For details of the current surplus, I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Maryhill (Mrs. Fyfe) on 10 January, Official Report, columns 244-45.

  • Mr Major’s Comments on Maastricht – 17 January 1996

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s comments on Maastricht, made on Wednesday 17th January 1996.


    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked to reflect on his thoughts when he went to negotiate at Maastricht in December 1991].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    We knew they were going to be very tough negotiations. At the back of our mind were several things. Firstly, we needed to deal with the fall-out from the Single European Act – that we were right to sign that in the 1980s – but some of the fall-out had been very difficult, the huge growth for example in Community Directives, and we needed to cut that back; that was the birth of subsidiarity, the idea of giving power back to the individual countries.

    Beyond that, there were several over-riding themes in our mind. Firstly, we wanted to change the system whereby every development in the European Community added to centralisation, so we wanted to establish a system where some matters could be dealt with solely by agreement between the governments on a quite separate basis and that is eventually what we agreed on security, defence, foreign affairs and home and justice affairs, a wholly new way for the European Union to develop that no-one had conceived of before – that was important to us.

    Beyond that, of course, there were some things we were not prepared to accept. We were not prepared to accept the Social Chapter because we believed it would destroy jobs and I still do, and I think the evidence shows that it does, and secondly, we were not prepared to accept a commitment to a single currency.

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked if he was on the defensive at Maastricht].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    In some cases certainly defensive but we had taken every detail of our negotiating position to the House of Commons and received the endorsement of the House of Commons so I had no doubt in my mind about the position that I was going to adopt and no doubt in my mind that if I was not able to achieve what I wanted, that I would not agree to the Treaty so to that extent I was certainly at ease in my negotiating position but there were a number of things that we wanted, those I set out a moment or so ago and a number of minor commitments as well all of which, in the event, we obtained.

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked if he knew at that stage whether he would be able to get an assurance on a British opt-out from the single currency].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    No, we didn’t have an assurance. I had had meetings with Delors, Lubbers, Kohl and others at the Luxembourg summit six weeks earlier and we had agreed a general principle of “no lock-out, no vetoes” so there was an implication that if we stood firm they would agree that there would be some form of opt-out but it emphatically wasn’t agreed and frankly, it wasn’t in my interest to have agreed it earlier because I wished to get the positive things we needed in the Treaty and also “out” the things we disliked before I came to the main issue of EMU. I didn’t want concessions made to me upon that issue that would have made the rest of my negotiations more difficult, I wanted that left till last.

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked how the opt-out was achieved].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    It was perfectly clear that I wasn’t going to accept the proposals that our partners had put to us. I thought then – and believe still – that it was folly for them to proceed as they did with a stated timetable and a commitment to go into a single currency, absolute folly. I wasn’t prepared to agree to that. Nobody would know years in advance that the economic circumstances were or the political circumstances and I just made it perfectly clear to them that if they wished to proceed on that basis, they could not expect Britain to do so and we would not and if they were not prepared to accept that, then there would be no treaty.

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked if this had been said at the formal conference part of the proceedings].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I had made that clear at the conference session but there were a series of private meetings outside it. The conference session went on a very long time, it was much the longest European Council meeting that I can recall and from time to time everyone got rather tired. There were a lot of detailed matters to be discussed and I had some private meetings outside the conference hall with Ruud Lubbers, who was chairing it, occasionally with Delors who was Commission President, also with Helmut Kohl and others and some of those discussions took place in that form.

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked if he had tried to get every country an opt-out on EMU].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    It is difficult to persuade other people to accept something in their interests if they don’t wish to, but we would have preferred that, yes.

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked if could have vetoed the entire agreement].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    That is more theoretical than real, frankly. If we had vetoed the whole concept, they would have precisely what in the event they had to do with the Social Chapter and form a separate agreement outside the Treaty of eleven and that would have had the same practical effect with one difference – it would not have given Britain any influence about the economic conditions and other circumstances in which people might go ahead to a single currency and if they do go ahead at a future stage, whether or not Britain is part of that, it is going to have an economic impact upon this country, so I very much wanted us to be part of the negotiations and to determine the way in which this matter was structured in the years to come so I didn’t want it to be outside the Treaty in that sense.

  • PMQT Written Answers – 17 January 1996

    Below is the text of the written answers relating to Prime Minister’s Question Time from 17th January 1996.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Disability Discrimination Act 1995

    Mr. McMaster: To ask the Prime Minister what guidance he intends to issue to (a) Departments, (b) executive agencies, (c) non-departmental public bodies and (d) outside bodies and arm’s-length organisation which he has responsibility for, or an interest in, regarding the implementation of the Disability Discrimination Act 1995; and if he will make a statement.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Member to the answer given by my hon. Friend the Minister for Social Security and Disabled People on 15 January, Official Report, column 417. I will ensure that my office and those bodies for which I am responsible are made aware of their responsibilities under the Act.

     

    Civil List

    Mr. Tony Banks: To ask the Prime Minister what was the amount of the civil list in 1994-95; what is the projected amount for 1995-96; and what is the current assessed surplus over actual expenditure.

    The Prime Minister: As announced by my predecessor on 24 July 1990 Official Report, columns 299-300, and implemented by SI 1990/2018 of 12 October 1990, the provision of Her Majesty’s civil list is £7.9 million in each year of the current 10-year settlement. Surplus provision in the early years is designed to cover shortfalls in the later ones.

    For details of the current surplus, I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Maryhill (Mrs. Fyfe) on 10 January, Official Report, columns 244-45.

  • PMQT Written Answers – 16 January 1996

    Below is the text of the written answers relating to Prime Minister’s Question Time from 16th January 1996.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Honours List

    Dr. Wright: To ask the Prime Minister how many Conservative hon. Members have received knighthoods since 1979; and if he will list them by name.

    The Prime Minister: A total of 127 Conservative Members have received knighthoods since 1979. The names of the recipients have been published in the London Gazette.

    Dr. Wright: To ask the Prime Minister if he will define “political services” and “public and political services” in the context of the honours list.

    The Prime Minister: Political services relate to those who give service to a political party. Political and public service is an appropriate description for those who have some other form of public service to their credit in addition to their political work.

     

    Government Economic Policy

    Mr. Austin Mitchell: To ask the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on the goal of the Government’s economic policy.

    The Prime Minister: The Government’s overall economic objective is to promote sustained economic growth and rising prosperity. We will continue with the policies which have given this country the lowest mortgage rates for 30 years, the lowest basic rate of tax for over 50 years and the longest period of low inflation for 50 years.

     

    Refugees

    Mr. Spearing: To ask the Prime Minister if he will initiate joint action by the relevant Departments of Her Majesty’s Government to determine the domicile of those persons, and their dependants, who (a) have refugee status, (b) have been given exceptional leave to remain in the United Kingdom or (c) have outstanding applications for refugee status; and if he will (i) publish and (ii) place in the Library the numbers of (1) such persons and (2) their dependants (x) by local authority area and (y) by parliamentary constituency.

    The Prime Minister: I have no plans to do so.

     

    Scott Inquiry

    Mr. Alan Williams: To ask the Prime Minister what legal costs arising from the Scott inquiry have been incurred by the Government in relation to (a) himself, (b) his predecessor and (c) his or her officials and advisers.

    The Prime Minister [holding answer 15 January 1996]: The Treasury Solicitor provides legal advice to the Prime Minister and his officials on a range of issues as part of his normal duties. The cost of his advice in relation to the Scott inquiry is not quantifiable. No other legal costs have been incurred in connection with the Scott inquiry on behalf of myself, my predecessor or my officials or advisers.

  • PMQT – 16 January 1996

    Below is the text of Prime Minister’s Question Time from 16th January 1996.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Engagements

    Q1. Mr. Skinner: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 16 January.

    The Prime Minister (Mr. John Major): This morning, I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in the House, I shall be having further meetings later today.

    Mr. Skinner: How on earth can the Prime Minister justify sacking 3,000 prison officers at a time when his Home Secretary has forecast that the prison population will increase, and what will he do with 3,000 extra pairs of handcuffs? Is he going to use them on Lady Thatcher and the bastards in the Cabinet?

    The Prime Minister: My right hon. and learned Friend is seeking to ensure that we receive from the Prison Service the efficiency that both we and taxpayers have a right to expect from the Prison Service. The hon. Gentleman may not be concerned about efficiency for taxpayers’ money, but we are.

    Mr. Trotter: Did not the Saudi Government prove to be stable and sound allies in the Gulf war? Is it not in the interests of Britain that the Saudis should continue to have a stable Government, and has not Mr. Al-Masari abused his position as a guest in this country? Do not the thousands of people whose jobs he puts at risk, especially in the north of England, feel that he is very fortunate to be offered a home on a Caribbean island, rather than being sent back to where he came from?

    The Prime Minister: As my hon. Friend will know, the United Kingdom has a long and honourable tradition of protecting and helping people who seek asylum, but if people abuse that hospitality, we should not ignore that. The stability of the Saudi Arabian Government is a matter of importance throughout the Gulf and for stability more generally, and we should not give comfort to people who seek to undermine it.

    Mr. Blair: Can the Prime Minister tell us why the Minister for Social Security and Disabled People has been reprimanded for writing his letter to The Times?

    The Prime Minister: I set out my views on that issue last week and they have not changed.

    Mr. Blair: What we would like to know is: has the Minister been reprimanded, yes or no?

    The Prime Minister: Matters in my Government are for me and not you.

    Mr. Blair: To which I can only say, looking at the Government, thank goodness.

    So the Prime Minister cannot tell us. He cannot make up his mind whether he has reprimanded the Minister or not. He cannot make up his mind, presumably, whether he agrees with the Minister, or whether he agrees with Lady Thatcher. Is it any wonder, when the Prime Minister cannot even answer simple questions about his own Government, that the country despairs of weak leadership and a divided Government?

    The Prime Minister: While we are on the subject of being clear about views, perhaps the right hon. Gentleman could tell us whether he would renationalise British Rail to please his party, or leave it alone to give his slogan some substance. Let him tell us some more. Would he abolish the grant-maintained schools that he voted against, or would he let parents enjoy the choice that he talks about? Would he tax more successful people to please his left wing, or does he believe that success should be rewarded? Can he make up his mind about any of those examples, and a dozen more that I can give him–or does he not know the answer?

    Sir Norman Fowler: Will my right hon. Friend take this opportunity to congratulate Land Rover on the major new overseas order that was announced this morning, on its continuing success in the overseas market and, above all, on the design of its new military ambulance?

    The Prime Minister: Land Rover is an excellent company with a long and honourable record, and I am delighted to congratulate it.

     

    Q2. Ms Glenda Jackson: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 16 January.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Ms Jackson: If, as the Prime Minister claims, his policies have created strong economic growth, why are the appalling 500,000 job losses in the construction industry due–according to the Building Employers Confederation–to rise by a further 22,000? Where will those workers look for jobs, and where will thousands of homeless families look for homes?

    The Prime Minister: Let me remind the hon. Lady of some of the economic circumstances–including the fall in unemployment–that now pertain in this country. No significantly sized country in western Europe has as much of its population in work; none of the major European countries has unemployment as low as ours; none of them has seen unemployment fall for over two years; and none of them can combine that with the lowest inflation levels for 50 years, the lowest mortgage rates for 30 years, the lowest basic rate of tax for 50 years and the best prospects that we have seen for many years.

    Mr. Marlow: Are more murders, muggings and mindless acts of violence carried out by adolescents now, or were there more in the days when corporal punishment was available both in schools and to the courts? If the answer is now, can we have corporal punishment back? I am sure that many people are concerned about the state of our streets and cities.

    The Prime Minister: I do not have the figures immediately to hand, but I can tell my hon. Friend, if he wishes to exercise arguments of that sort, that if he went back far enough and extended his thoughts to capital as well as corporal punishment, he would find that the number of murders committed many years ago when capital punishment applied was far larger than it is now. I am not sure that I draw the conclusion that was implicit in my hon. Friend’s question.

     

    Q3. Mr. Jon Owen Jones: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 16 January.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Jones: Will the Prime Minister confirm that the average age of a member of the Conservative party is now 62, that there are no more than 5,000 members of the Young Conservatives and that the Young Conservatives’ conference had to be cancelled this year owing to lack of interest? Will he tell us why young people in Britain have lost all interest in the Conservative party, and want nothing to do with it?

    The Prime Minister: The answers to the hon. Gentleman’s three questions are no, no and no; so the last part of what he said does not apply.

     

    Q4. Lady Olga Maitland: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 16 January.

    The Prime Minister: I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Lady Olga Maitland: Does my right hon. Friend agree that the way to give people a stake in society is to allow them to own their homes, to own shares, to have their own pension schemes and, above all, to pay low taxes? Does he agree that that contrasts sharply with the Labour party’s vision of a stakeholding society, which would place burdens on business men and, indeed, bring back vested interests in Labour’s old friends?

    The Prime Minister: My hon. Friend is right in what she says. There has been some discussion recently about the term “stakeholder society” or “stakeholder economy”. The Leader of the Opposition now tells us that it is a slogan, and the hon. Member for Brent, East (Mr. Livingstone) tells us that he has not the faintest idea what it means. But we know and have been practising what it means for the past 16 years. It means giving people a direct, personal interest in what happens–lower taxes, more home ownership, more personal pensions– exercised by the holders themselves, not exercised by other people allegedly on their behalf.

     

    Q5. Mr. Pickthall: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 16 January.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Pickthall: Will the Prime Minister look into the case of my elderly constituent, Teresa Stewart, who was referred to Fazackerly hospital by her GP? She arrived there at 4 o’clock in the afternoon but was not seen by a hospital doctor until 10 o’clock that evening. Thereafter, she remained on a trolley until noon the next day. Does not her case, and the hundreds of others up and down the country, demonstrate yet again that the national health service is not safe in the Tories’ hands?

    The Prime Minister: Of course I will look into the individual case that the hon. Gentleman raises and I will ask my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Health to respond to him. But the hon. Gentleman should realise that, with a service the size of the national health service, he will from time to time find matters of concern. There are now something over 8.5 million patients treated in total each year. The hon. Gentleman might care to consider how much lower that number was when last his party was in government.

    Mr. Day: Will my right hon. Friend take this opportunity to reassure the House that he will not follow the example of the Leader of the Opposition in seeming to imply to the nation that he has rejected everything he has ever believed? Will he also give an assurance that he will never, as Prime Minister and leader of our party, give the impression that he has accepted totally the philosophy of the party that he has fought all his political life? Will he assure Conservative Members of that so that we will not have a similar fear to that of many Labour Members–that the leader of the Labour party is about to cross the Floor and join us?

    The Prime Minister: I can certainly give my hon. Friend the assurance he seeks. The Leader of the Opposition seems to base the prospects for his future on the belief that he has always been wrong.

     

    Q6. Mr. Khabra: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 16 January.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Khabra: Does the Prime Minister have any new policies to end the recession in the housing market?

    The Prime Minister: If the hon. Gentleman looks, he will see that house prices have risen throughout the past five months. That is a very welcome trend. [Interruption.] The right hon. Member for Kingston upon Hull, East (Mr. Prescott) seems neither to understand nor to hear anything that is said to him. I repeat the point–house prices have risen throughout the past five months. That is a welcome development, and I hope and expect to see it continue.

    Mr. Legg: Has my right hon. Friend found time to read the latest book by the Labour guru, Will Hutton, especially the chapter entitled “Stakeholder Capitalism”? If my right hon. Friend has read that chapter, does he agree that Labour’s vision of stakeholder capitalism owes more to the failed corporatism of the 1970s than to anything happening in Singapore today? Does he have any plans to introduce stakeholder trade unions, which would enjoy extra powers and rights?

    The Prime Minister: The distinction between the Government and the Opposition on this matter is that we believe people should have a personal interest, personally owned, in the country. The Opposition seem to believe– if the idea is more than just a slogan, although that is not clear–in a corporatist approach in which special interest groups operate on behalf of the public at large, as the shadow Secretary of State for Transport said just the other day. The Leader of the Opposition, desperately trying to put flesh on his slogan, has failed to do so and has reaffirmed me in my belief that all he is concerned about is the readmission of a corporatist Britain of the sort we rejected in the 1980s and will not have back in the 1990s.

     

    Q7. Mr. Miller: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 16 January.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Miller: We are always on the look-out for fresh ideas from the Prime Minister. [Hon. Members: “Oh!”] So is his own party. What new plans does he have to increase investment in the British economy?

    The Prime Minister: The hon. Gentleman is certainly right, in that the Opposition have sought, rather inadequately, to borrow many of our ideas–just as they have sought, without real conviction, to ditch their own.

    Investment is rising, which is why this country has a higher growth rate than elsewhere in Europe. It is why unemployment is falling; it is why the economy is in better shape at the moment than it has been for many years–and in better shape than the economy of anywhere else in western Europe.

  • PMQT Written Answers – 15 January 1996

    Below is the text of the written answers relating to Prime Minister’s Question Time from 15th January 1996.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Nuclear Materials (Exports)

    Mr. Simpson: To ask the Prime Minister, pursuant to his answer of 11 December, Official Report, column 473, if he will place in the Library a copy of the guidelines of the nuclear suppliers group.

    The Prime Minister: A copy will be placed in the Library shortly.

     

    Cyprus

    Mr. Cox: To ask the Prime Minister if he will make it his policy to support the application by Cyprus for membership of the European Union if there has not been a settlement on the division of Cyprus before the application is discussed.

    The Prime Minister: We welcome the prospect of Cypriot membership of the EU. We want to see the whole island join, on the basis of a bizonal, bicommunal federation. The prospect of accession provides an opportunity which the United Kingdom and its EU partner’s are determined to use to facilitate the search for a settlement.

     

    Sport on Television

    Mr. Grocott: To ask the Prime Minister whether the policy on sport on television contained in the letter from the Under-Secretary of State to the hon. Member for The Wrekin dated 19 December 1995 is now being reviewed by the Prime Minister.

    The Prime Minister: As my hon. Friend made clear, the Government’s position is that sporting bodies should in general be free to dispose of their broadcasting rights in the interests of their sport. I am aware of public debate on this issue; and we are keeping it under close review.

     

    Mobile Phones

    Mr. William Ross: To ask the Prime Minister how many mobile telephones were supplied to the Department of the Lord Privy Seal and Leader of the House of Lords in each of the last eight years; and in each of those years how many different suppliers were involved.

    The Prime Minister: A mobile telephone was purchased for the office of my right hon. and noble Friend in 1993, from one supplier, and two were purchased in 1994, from another.

     

    Sport (National Body)

    Mr. Spearing: To ask the Prime Minister what consultations he has had, or intends to have with (a) the Sports Council and (b) governing bodies of individual sports, concerning his proposal to establish a national academy or institute of sport; and if he intends promotion of wider participation in all sporting activity to be one of its principal objectives.

    The Prime Minister: I made clear my policy on the British academy of sport in the policy statement “Sport: Raising the Game”. The Sports Council is now consulting widely on what the structure and content of the academy might be. A copy of the council’s consultation paper was placed in the Library of the House, and the closing date for responses is 31 January.

    The British academy of sport will be the top of a sporting ladder involving schools, clubs and further and higher education institutions, and other sport’s centres, and will enable all those who wish to participate in sport to do so at as high a level as their abilities allow.

     

    Fisheries

    Mr. David Porter: To ask the Prime Minister what plans he has to raise fisheries at the intergovernmental conference; what factors led to him formulating these proposals; and if he will make a statement.

    The Prime Minister: The common fisheries policy is not on the agenda of the intergovernmental conference. The IGC will be concerned with treaty change rather than the content of particular policies. We will continue to work for the improvement in the operation of the CFP in the appropriate fora.

     

    Dr. al-Masari

    Mr. Winnick: To ask the Prime Minister if he will place in the Library all the written representations made by the Saudi authorities over the presence in the United Kingdom of Dr. al-Masari; and what was the response of the Government.

    The Prime Minister: It is not my normal practice to do so.

    Mr. Winnick: To ask the Prime Minister on how many occasions and on what dates he was asked directly or indirectly, formally or otherwise by the Saudi authorities about the presence in the United Kingdom of Dr. al-Masari; and what response he gave on each occasion.

    The Prime Minister: The presence and activities of Dr. al-Masari in the United Kingdom have been raised by the Saudi authorities on a number of occasions. The Saudi’s have been told that Her Majesty’s Government disapprove of Dr. al-Masari’s activities, and that he would be treated strictly in accordance with United Kingdom and international law.

     

    Severe Weather (Glasgow)

    Mr. David Marshall: To ask the Prime Minister if he will visit those areas of Glasgow his Department estimates to be worst affected by the recent severe weather conditions.

    The Prime Minister: I have no plans to do so. My right hon. Friend, the Secretary of State for Scotland, and his colleagues have already made a series of visits to water authority headquarters, including Glasgow, to meet the staff and hear at first hand about the handling of the problems created by record low temperatures and the thaw over the holiday period. Disruption was kept to a minimum and questions of hardship are being addressed as speedily as possible. My right hon. Friend has established a working party to report on general lessons.

     

    Knighthoods

    Mr. Tony Banks: To ask the Prime Minister what is his policy on the recommendation for knighthoods of lords mayor of the City of London.

    The Prime Minister: Such recommendations are considered in the same way as other recommendations for honours.

     

    10 Downing Street (Functions)

    Mr. Speller: To ask the Prime Minister (1) how many functions at 10 Downing Street since November 1990 have been at the expense of the Conservative party;

    (2) what guidelines are provided to the organisers of fund-raising events held at 10 Downing Street in aid of political parties.

    The Prime Minister: Ministers under this and previous Administrations have been allowed–at their own or party expense–to host non-official or party receptions or functions in Downing Street. All catering, staff and other direct expenses must be met by the organisers of the event. Appropriate arrangements are required for security clearance.

    Mr. John Spellar: To ask the Prime Minister (1) how many functions to raise money for political parties have been held in 10 Downing Street since November 1990;

    (2) how many functions to raise money for political parties were held in 10 Downing street between January 1980 and November 1990.

    The Prime Minister: Under this and previous Administrations, a variety of functions have been held at No. 10 Downing Street where the costs have been met by political parties. The purpose of such functions is not a matter for the Government, but I can confirm that since November 1990, there have been no functions at No. 10 Downing Street at which funds have been raised for political parties, or for which tickets have been sold for the benefit of political parties.

  • Mr Major’s Doorstep Interview – 12 January 1996

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s doorstep interview, held on Friday 12th January 1996.


    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked what he thought of Margaret Thatcher’s speech].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think she will be very surprised by what she reads this morning. She said two things, first the huge danger of having a Labour Government and the way in which they would throw away what has been achieved in the last sixteen years. That is undoubtedly true and was set out very clearly in the remarks she made yesterday. Second, what is necessary to make this country prosperous. Some of the things she was talking about are already underway, improving prosperity for everyone, whatever class they may be. The economy is now in a state where we are able to return to a tax cutting agenda and able to improve public services.

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked if he was failing the middle classes].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    The incentives and opportunities are there at the moment. Ask people up and down the country what they want, they want opportunities for better and more secure employment. We have done better than any other European country. No other European country has as much of its adult population in employment as we do. They want to see crime falling. It is falling for the first time in 40 years. There is clear evidence of that. What you need to deliver prosperity to people is a secure economy that will last. We have delivered one out of a very difficult recession. We have delivered a platform for prosperity that we have not seen equalled for forty years. And I am going to build on that platform for prosperity. I do not intend to be pushed off course.

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked what was meant by the term “No Nation Conservatism”].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    There are no “no nation” Conservatives. The Conservative Party has always been a one nation party. It is exactly what I’ve just been talking about. An inclusive society dealing with the problems people face. Things like crime, problems like jobs. Problems like achieving and maintaining prosperity, it has been a one nation Conservative Party since the beginning of time. Who could suggest differently? How could one possibly have a two nation party of any sort?

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked whether Margaret Thatcher has any relevance any more].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    Lady Thatcher is a very important part of the Conservative Party. As I’ve been saying for a long time the Conservative Party is a broad church and everyone part of it has an input into our policy. But when it has had that input we set out what our policy is and we live and win in the centre right of politics. We are dealing with giving people a proper place in the future of this country. And by a proper place I don’t mean allowing others to be taking decisions for them, I mean introducing the lowest possible taxes so they can take their own decisions. I mean achieving the greatest possible personal ownership and opportunity so that they can take their own decisions. That’s what we’ve been seeking since 1979, it’s what we are doing now and it’s what we are going to go on doing.

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked if Margaret Thatcher had damaged party unity].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I read the speech and I rather imagine Lady Thatcher will be baffled by much of what she will have read this morning. What she was indicating in her speech yesterday was the damage to this country of a Labour Government. Now I share that view very strongly. No-one should think that the gains of the last 16 years would necessarily be safe under anything other than a Conservative Government. Lady Thatcher wants a Conservative Government just as much as I do. And that’s what we’re going to have.

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked to comment on the reports that Germany might fail to meet the targets for economic convergence for the Euro].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I am surprised you say the latest news from Germany. If I may remind you, I have been saying not particularly in the case of Germany that I’ve been looking at the issue of convergence criteria for many years. I said at first it will not be done in 1997, others said, “yes it will, the European bus will roll on”, but it didn’t. I was right and they were wrong. They have been saying consistently they will be reached in 1999. I’ve been saying well, maybe, maybe. But not certainly. And now it looks increasingly across Europe others are starting to have doubts as well.

    It may yet turn out that we were right and other people were wrong. But whether they meet in 1999 or later, is not actually the important fact. The important fact is were the criteria to be met will the changes be good for this country and Europe and what will the impact be if some countries go ahead to a single currency and others don’t. And my alarm about the policy that is being developed by our European partners is that in my judgement they simply haven’t examined carefully enough and in the right sort of detail what the impact of this policy is. I want Europe to succeed because we’re part of it. But I don’t intend to stand to one side and watch them proceed with developments if they’re not in the general interest of Europe. And the case for progressing at the moment is emphatically not yet made.

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked if that would be accepted by all wings of the Conservative Party].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    Don’t ask me about the left, centre left and the right of the party. It is the right stance for this country. I’m here in Downing Street to do what is right for the country. I’ve set out what I believe to be right. I will fight for what I believe to be right. And I will not be pushed off what I believe to be right. That’s why I have not taken short-term popular decisions.

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked about the date of the General Election].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I expect there will be an election next year. There will have to be one before May next year.

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked if he would rule out holding a General Election in 1996].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I could never rule out one, but I think there will be one in the early part of next year.

  • Mr Major’s Doorstep Interview in Paris – 11 January 1996

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s doorstep interview outside the British Embassy in Paris, held on Thursday 11th January 1996.


    QUESTION (Hugh Schofield, BBC):

    Prime Minister, what are your feelings after today’s service at Notre Dame in memory of the late President Francois Mitterrand?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    The sheer size of the attendance, both in terms of people from around the world, and also French men and women, indicates the degree of affection there was. I think that springs from a number of things. Certainly his remarkable service, not just as President of France for 14 years, but in a huge number of positions before that. His tremendous contribution to the development of France and the development of Europe, and beyond that, a rather personal feeling of immense admiration for his courage during his illness over recent years.

    QUESTION (French TV):

    What do you think his legacy will be, particularly on the European front?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    He was clearly one of the architects of the increasing integration of Europe. That has been his main theme over recent years. He has pursued that persistently over many years and with much success. I think that will be a legacy that people will always recall.

    QUESTION:

    But you did not always agree?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think people often under-estimate the extent to which people have a very genuine and sincere admiration for people with whom they may not always agree politically. President Mitterrand was a very big figure in European history. That is recognised today, it will be recognised in due course by history, but his contemporaries understand that as well. In a way we have never seen in previous generations, heads of state and government know each other much better than they once did. They meet much more often. Communications are much better. So quite apart from the political discussions and the political comment, as individuals, as ordinary everyday human beings, they know one another much better than their predecessors could ever have done.

    QUESTION:

    Do you have any special personal memories?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I have met President Mitterrand on a huge number of occasions over the past five or six years. I think the memories I have of him, that will be more vivid, are the private meetings, the private intimacies. The extent to which although there was often a business of state to discuss, that he was perfectly agreeable to sitting down and just discussing some of the everyday gossip of politics and international affairs. Politicians are humans too. They like that in the same way that everybody else does. And he was very proficient at that, with a very wide knowledge of European history.

    QUESTION (French TV):

    He was from a different generation to you. Does his generation offer anything from which lessons can be learned?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think all generations do. If politics was just a preserve of the elderly generation then it would be rather stilted. If it was just the preserve of the younger generation it would be equally stilted. Politics is an ongoing stream. At any time there are elder statesmen with generations of experience and younger politicians as well. I think there is a proper mix between the two. And certainly he gave a great deal from his experience.