Category: 1993

  • PMQT Written Answers – 24 March 1993

    Below is the text of the written answers relating to Prime Minister’s Question Time from 24th March 1993.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Government Hospitality Fund

    Mr. Austin Mitchell : To ask the Prime Minister, pursuant to his answer, of 9 March, Official Report, column 517, if he will list the number and names of outside contractors used by the Government hospitality fund for official functions; how many and which caterers were used at official functions other than those arranged by the Government hospitality fund; and, in each case, whether the contract was put out to tender.

    The Prime Minister : There are three caterers (Crown Catering Group, Leiths Good Food and Ring and Brymer) employed by the Government hospitality fund for functions at 10 Downing Street. Only one caterer (Lady Blennerhassett) is employed for official functions other than those arranged by the Government hospitality fund. For every GHF function at 10 Downing Street, quotations are called for from the approved caterers.

     

    Royal Prerogative

    Mr. Mackinlay : To ask the Prime Minister which clauses of the European Communities (Amendment) Bill affect the royal prerogative; and if he will list the extent to which each of those clauses limits the current extent of the royal prerogative.

    The Prime Minister [holding answer 22 March 1993] : As appears from the Order Paper, the Queen’s consent to the Bill is to be signified on Third Reading. Her Majesty’s consent has been sought because of clause 2 of the European Communities (Amendment) Bill. That clause limits the exercise of the royal prerogative in foreign affairs by preventing the United Kingdom from moving to the third stage of economic and monetary union until the move has been approved by Act of Parliament.

  • Mr Major’s Speech at the Global Technology Partnership Venture Conference – 24 March 1993

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s speech at the Global Technology Partnership Venture Conference, held in Birmingham on Wednesday 24th March 1993.


    PRIME MINISTER:

    Perhaps right at the outset I may say how pleased I am to see how many of you have come here for this particular conference and clearly recognise the importance of the subject and the importance of the conference itself.

    It does seem as we meet here this morning that Birmingham in March is a world away from Copa Cabana in June, and so I suppose in many ways it is. But this conference is an important staging post in the process that began at Rio last year and is the staging post for this reason, because today we move from discussion and negotiation to implementation and it will be implementation of what was agreed at Rio that will actually make the practical effect in the environment we hand on in the future.

    You will be familiar with the events at Rio. In Rio leaders from over 120 countries came together to discuss the environmental challenges that all of us face. We in Britain were determined from the very outset to ensure that that conference at Rio was a success and I believe our early support, the determination to attend and to contribute was crucial in ensuring that Rio did turn out to be a success.

    The core set of agreements that were reached at Rio are well known: climate convention to reduce the risk of global warming; the biodiversity convention to protect the varieties of plants and animal species and the statement on forest principles and a great deal more besides. Those were the agreements that Heads of Government all over the country signed up to in that remarkable conference in Rio. But we need to move beyond that, we need now to turn those agreements into reality and here also I wish to ensure that Britain is in the lead.

    When we returned from the Rio conference I urged our partners in the G7 and in the European Community to action. On Monday of this week the United Kingdom played a significant part in an agreement reached at the European Community Environment Council, an agreement that committed all the European Community countries to take action to ratify the climate change.

    That summit at Rio recognised the need for coordinated action. Global problems will only be solved by a global response. Without that one country can undo the good that is done by another. But we agreed also on some common sense precepts, that action would be most effective if it drew on the individual strengths of each country, but the action required was not just for governments alone and that action would succeed best if it went with the grain of the economy and not cut against the grain of the economy. And we took that view for a very practical reason – enlightened self-interest is a far more powerful weapon for change and improvements than grudging masochism.

    Those are the ideas that will underlie our environmental strategy for the future. And that is why while at Rio I launched three special United Kingdom initiatives designed to draw on Britain’s individual strengths. First, on technology transfer which we are discussing today; second, on biodiversity which is already under way; and third, on involving non-governmental bodies which we will launch in the autumn.

    I will say more in just a few moments about technology transfer, but let me just briefly remind you of the other programmes. The Darwin initiative that I announced at Rio draws on British expertise in the field of biodiversity and our aim quite simply is to promote the conservation and sustainable use of the world’s plant and animal resources. But in order to do so we will be putting the skills and expertise of world renowned institutions like the Royal Botanical Gardens at Kew and Edinburgh and the Natural History Museum at the disposal of the whole of the world.

    Our initiative on non-governmental bodies will be taken forward in September when we will host The Partnership for Change 1993 Conference that will be held in Manchester. And the purpose of that is to bring together several hundred representatives from the world’s non-governmental organisations, the voluntary sector, local government and business, bringing them all together in that conference. And the aim will be to exchange practical experience on the delivery of sustainable development.

    Over years in the past perhaps the role of the non-governmental organisations have been under-played. But I myself have not a shred of doubt that they played a very important part in the preparations for Rio and I want to see them equally involved in the future in taking the process forward. It is right that these NGOs should press action on governments right the way around the world. But apart from that they have a second role that is equally important, a vital role to play in involving a wider public in the debate on all environmental matters. Because ultimately it will be public acceptance of the threats that we all face that will create the climate for decisive action by governments all around the world.

    The initiatives I have set out just briefly there are global initiatives. But the United Kingdom must demonstrate that it will do more than just offer assistance to others. We have to show that we are prepared to act here at home. For every single country the environmental buck stops in their own back yard, nowhere else, and that means governments around the world need to act, even when that means taking difficult and unpopular measures. And that was why we announced decisive action in the budget in the United Kingdom last week. The Chancellor announced that there would be long-term rises in the real level of road fuel duties and that Value Added Tax would be extended to the domestic use of fuel and of power. And in so doing he underlined Britain’s determination to meet our Rio commitments on Carbon Dioxide emissions. It makes no sense for the government to commit Britain to lower CO2 emissions but at the same time to be the only Western European government with no Value Added Tax on domestic fuel. It was, frankly, a text book case of perverse signals. Nor did it make any sense for the government to exhort motorists and manufacturers to choose and build fuel efficient cars while refusing to give them tangible incentives to make and to buy those cars.

    And we announced these measures in the budget but gave people time to adjust to the new signals, that is why the increases have been announced well ahead for a series of reasons. To give households the time they need to adapt and to invest in making their homes more energy efficient, to give car manufacturers, and for that matter car buyers, time to realise that in the 1990s there will be an increasing premium on fuel efficient cars and to enable the government to put in place special measures to protect the least well off from the impact of those bills.

    The Chancellor made our intentions clear in his budget speech and will announce full details of the usual way in which we will assist people in the benefit up-rating statement in the autumn.

    What is the environmental impact of those measures? We expect those measures to deliver an annual reduction of 3 million tonnes of carbon by the turn of the century. But we cannot, and in my judgment we should not, meet those targets through tax changes alone, they are but one element in the programme. We expect an even larger saving to come from the measures we have already put in hand to boost the efficient use of energy. We already have programmes to offer advice and information and to provide grants to low income households.

    We are adding new measures. The Energy Saving Trust to devise and implement programmes to improve energy efficiency in consultation with the energy utilities and with their regulators. And also a new energy management assistance scheme to help small businesses with advice on energy efficiency. When these measures are operative we will be two-thirds of the way towards meeting our target. The Secretary of State for the Environment, Michael Howard, is now engaged on a nationwide consultation on the remaining elements. We need a comprehensive approach and that means using a whole range of instruments and seeking lower emissions from all sectors. We will need to build on the excellent record of business so far in improving its energy efficiency.

    We set out options in the document published last December. We will complete consultations with business, with consumer, with environmental groups, and by the end of the year we will produce the national plan to meet our targets.

    We warned some time ago in the first Environmental White Paper that meeting our CO2 target would mean a rise in the relative price of energy. That White Paper was published not last week but two-and-a-half years ago. We could, as some have urged, have introduced a new tax, a tax that would have meant not just higher bills for private consumers but also higher bills for business but as the Chancellor said last week, we did not want to take measures that would damage the competitiveness of British industry and I will tell you the practical reason why that is so for there is one other development which is essential to creating the conditions which mean that Britain can meet its Rio commitments and that is economic recovery. A tax that added to business costs, dulled competitiveness would at best have retarded that and at worst could have undermined it completely.

    Some people argue that there is a choice between economic growth and the environment or even that growth is the enemy of the environment. I have to say to you that I believe precisely the reverse is true. Growing economies can invest in technologies which save energy or recycle waste, dynamic businesses can lead the way in raising the standard of corporate environmental practice and it is when people are confident about their own immediate future that they think most about the longer-term future. In short, “no development” is not sustainable development, “no growth” policies would mean no green policies either; they would range environmental concerns against concerns about jobs and concerns about living standards and that would wreck any chance of the shared commitment we need in order to make progress.

    If that is true of Britain and true of the other industrialised countries, it is surely true a thousand times over of developing countries. It is no accident that wherever you look in the world, the worst environmental degradation is found within some of the weakest economies. Allowing countries to grow out of poverty is the best way of securing long-term environmental improvement.

    Our economy and our ecology are interdependent. That was the central driving principle of the Earth Summit but to maintain and improve the world environment in the face of rapidly-rising populations we must all invest, and to invest on the vast scale needed nations need income and to earn that income nations must trade and that is why a successful and rapid conclusion to the Uruguay Round is vital to our environmental future. Over time, a successful conclusion would raise the income of developing countries by some 100 billion dollars each and every year and that increase in income will have a far more positive effect on their willingness and their ability to protect their local environment than stalling GATT by erecting green trade barriers. Trade protection is the enemy – not the friend – of environmental protection.

    I want to see us harness together environmental protection and business opportunity to create a green virtuous spiral of growth and higher environmental standards and if we are to be able to achieve that we need to draw together those who have technology to offer and those who can benefit from the technology that is now available in different parts of the world. I believe the British Government can make a special contribution in doing this and that is why today I am delighted to launch the Global Technology Partnership initiative.

    Consider for a moment some of the lessons of history. The countries which industrialised in the 19th and early 20th centuries have now had to re-invent technology to meet today’s demands for cleaner air, fresher water, unsullied land and the aim of this particular initiative is to allow those who are newly industrialising today to bypass the old technologies and to move straight to cleaner processes. That surely is the logical and rational way to avoid environmental degradation and to avoid too the very heavy clean-up costs which eventually result from environmental degradation and if you want an illustration of that there is certainly one readily available. The countries of Eastern Europe suffered under governments which went for unclean industrial development for generations while ignoring the environmental consequences and they now demonstrate in the starkest possible way the price to be paid – the environmental price and also the case price – as they seek to protect and reverse the damage that has been done over so many decades.

    I believe that British industry has a long track record of successful technology co-operation around the world from recycling in Kenya to energy efficiency in India and what we want to ensure is quite simply this: to ensure that that expertise is both more widely available and more widely used.

    Consider the opportunities for that: the opportunities for that are almost limitless. The world market for environmental goods and services is at about 200 billion dollars a year; it is anticipated to grow by a further 50% in the next seven years and beyond that any estimates I suspect would be worthless but certainly further growth will occur. That is a prospect that few businesses will wish to ignore so there are valuable commercial opportunities and technology transfer which takes place as a hard commercial transaction which passes the market test is I believe the technology transfer that is most likely to succeed. Both partners must have a vested interest in its success; the technology must be the best, the most appropriate the customer needs and if it is not, they will not buy it so there is this element of joint interest.

    This Conference and this initiative are built to promote precisely such exchanges of technology. They are designed to promote partnership between Britain and developing countries, a partnership that like all successful partnerships will work precisely because both partners have something to offer and something to gain from the relationship between them.

    Global Technology Partnership will run for three years and in so doing create the conditions for increasing successful transfers of technology. First, it will provide information. It is one thing to point to the benefits of technology transfer but what those of you from overseas need is hard concrete information – who can help and with what can they help and when can they help? That information is there in the Department of Trade & Industry’s new Guide to UK Sources of Environmental Technology and Services and that lists over 400 UK companies who can offer technology or expertise.

    That Guide is a first step but guides get out of date. You need to know where to turn for news and for the latest developments so we have established a new network of organisations to keep that information flowing and the purpose is that through that particular network we shall give developing countries direct access to the guidance on the best environmental practice which we will make available to British industry. We will aim to expand it, to include as many organisations as possible, organisations who can help the process of technology co-operation.

    But the network will work in another way as well; it will also feed back information from abroad to businesses here to ensure that special local problems abroad are more widely understood so that our businesses here in the United Kingdom can develop technologies specifically tailored to the needs of overseas countries and we are setting up a new unit in the Department of Trade & Industry that will be particularly dedicated to coordinating this initiative and making sure that it is a success.

    There is one other important point often, alas, overlooked. People matter as much as hardware. There is no more depressing sight than an expensive piece of equipment gleaming unused or misused because technology transfer has meant only the equipment transfer and that particular piece of equipment. Successful technology transfer needs more than that. It requires also the transfer of technical and management skills to be in place to ensure that technologies can be used and diffused in the recipient countries so a vital element of this initiative will be a practical training through a hands-on training scheme. United Kingdom companies will help senior businessmen and women from developing countries to acquire practical experience of modern technology, modern management and modern production methods and the benefits they gain from that will surely multiply as they pass on those skills back home in their own countries.

    This Conference runs for three days. In those three days, you will be able to address workshops addressing the most important environmental challenges. The workshops are organised and led not by civil servants but by practical businessmen. They will, I hope, address your needs and alert you to the opportunities that exist. I hope that at the end of those three days you will be able to leave this Conference with a greater sense of how far business can help business to meet the challenge of sustainable development into the next century.

    At Rio, we recognised that governments could and should set the framework, could and should act as catalysts but we also recognised that we could not and should not claim that we can deliver that change on our own. Here at Birmingham today, the business community represent one of the powerful forces for the improvement of the well-being of people in all our countries but business is an equally powerful force for the protection of the environment in all countries. There are challenges for you in these next three days and beyond but there are also enormous prizes to be won, business prizes and environmental prizes, if business in this country and abroad is able to rise to the challenges that are there.

    I hope at the end of these three days when you leave Birmingham you will leave Birmingham believing as I believe that the business communities of the United Kingdom and developing countries must work together. Not only that, but that it is to their mutual commercial and environmental advantage to work together but also beyond that ultimately – and this is a matter of crucial importance to this generation and to future generations as well – their working together will be to the enormous benefit of the environment we depend upon and the people we serve.

    As we look at that, we should perhaps bear one thing further in our minds. In twenty, thirty, forty, fifty years from now, people will look back at the actions we took now to see whether we have taken the right action to protect our environment for the future. We have the technology, we have the capacity to transfer that technology; it is a matter of will and determination to make sure that we do. I hope this Conference will assist in bringing that will and that determination into being so that the technology transfer can be made for this generation and for the next. [Applause].

  • Mr Major’s Comments on the VAT Increase on Fuel – 24 March 1993

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s comments on the VAT increase on domestic fuel, made on 24th March 1993.


    QUESTION:

    [The Prime Minister was asked about the Government’s VAT increase on domestic fuel]

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think you have to realise why it was done first. There were two reasons: we had to raise resources and also we have a commitment to get rid of carbon dioxide, a very important environmental commitment. This takes us a long way towards doing it and I have been speaking at a conference about that in Birmingham just this morning.

    We are the only European nation that doesn’t have VAT on fuel and power, many of them at far higher rates than 17.5%.

    Over the last few years, the real price of energy has fallen by about 9% as a result of privatisation. Each year, there is regulation on the price and the price is fixed by the Retail Price Index minus something. Whether the whole of that 17.5% in two years will have been put on the price of fuel is very debatable; it may be substantially less because the regulator will have reduced the price.

    For the average pensioner family, for example – I don’t mean the least well-off who I will come to in a minute but the average pensioner family – I use the estimate of the Opposition so you won’t think I am cooking the books: they estimated that it would add £2 a week to fuel prices. Of that, £l a week would be automatically recompensed through the Retail Price Index mechanism that uprates pensions. So the great fuss that is being made there is for the average person – I am not talking about people above income support but on pensions – that they would pay an extra £1 a week even assuming that the energy price did not fall further in the next two years as it has in the last two years.

    Against that, I think the proposition of people freezing is a difficult one to sustain.

    For people who are less well-off of course that sum and that help feed into the Retail Price Index but we have said there will be extra help as well for all people on income-related benefits – not just the pensioners on income-related benefits.

    There is another factor for pensioners which the Opposition and our critics happily ignore. A year or so ago when the Community Charge still existed, to help pensioners pay the Community Charge in the base of the pension for the poorest pensioners we increased the sum by £2.80 for a couple and I think £1.80 for a single person. When the Community Charge disappeared, we could have taken that away. We didn’t and so from 1 April for many relatively well-off pensioner couples there will be an extra £2.80 which exceeds by 80 pence the cost estimated by the Opposition if the full 17.5% was implemented two years on.

  • Mr Major’s Comments on Unemployment in Kent – 24 March 1993

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s comments on unemployment in Kent, made on 24th March 1993.


    QUESTION:

    [The Prime Minister was asked about unemployment in Kent in advance of a regional visit to the county]

    PRIME MINISTER:

    This has been a different recession from any we have ever seen before. Typically in the past recessions have hit manufacturing industry in the Midlands, the North and the West, Scotland and Wales, the old very high labour intensive industries. This has been a different recession because the root of the recession was the huge increase in property and other prices, mostly in the South and East, and then suddenly the fact that in order to damp down inflation interest rates rose and there was great funding difficulties in areas of high property cost. So it meant that the areas that faced greatest difficulties were the South and the East, not at all typical.

    Now I have to say that it has always been a fallacy that there are not unemployment difficulties in parts of London, the South and the East, that has always been the case, it is just generally in the prosperity it has been more masked than it has, and on this occasion because the North and the West have not had the same difficulties with the recession it has thrown up the South and Eastern problems. So yes I do know there are particular problems in Kent and indeed in other South-East or South-West counties as well.

    What is really going to get those people back to work? I think we have to ask ourselves what it is that will recreate jobs in those areas. I think the East Kent Initiative, that is a private sector led initiative, I think it is very welcome. I think some of the other action the government has taken is very welcome, one can run through a myriad series of particular schemes, all of which I think have a part to play. But what is really going to put the people of Kent back to work is growth in the economy and the right circumstances for people actually to begin creating businesses again and begin to employ. Last year in the depth of the recession how many new firms do you think actually registered for Value Added Tax – not something you would do unless you had to? The answer is 400,000 last year. The opening up of Kent with the Channel Tunnel Rail Link and the prospects of the East Thames Corridor will make Kent, with that tremendous market in Europe of 340 million people, the biggest free trade market the world has ever dreamed of, will make Kent an absolute magnet for fresh investment and for fresh jobs. And you may be coming here in five years time and saying to me: we are a bit worried about all this investment, it is very good, but what about the environment?

  • PMQT Written Answers – 23 March 1993

    Below is the text of the written answers relating to Prime Minister’s Question Time from 23rd March 1993.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Engagements

    Mr. Harry Greenway : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 23 March.

    Sir Peter Tapsell : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 23 March.

    The Prime Minister : This morning, I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in the House, I shall be having further meetings later today.

  • PMQT – 23 March 1993

    Below is the text of Prime Minister’s Question Time from 23rd March 1993.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Inward Investment

    Q1. Mr. Wells : To ask the Prime Minister when he next expects to lead an overseas visit by a group of business men to obtain overseas inward investment or export orders.

    The Prime Minister (Mr. John Major) : I hope to visit Japan in the autumn, accompanied by a delegation of senior British business men. My ministerial colleagues also take every opportunity to promote Britain and British business abroad. They are planning to lead at least 14 trade missions to 17 countries in the next year covering markets as diverse as Asia, Africa and the far east.

    Mr. Wells : I congratulate my right hon. Friend on the signal honour paid to him in being invited to India to take the Republic Day parade, on his flexibility in reorganising his schedule at the last minute to pay a visit to Saudi Arabia with business men accompanying him, and on obtaining a £4 billion order and securing 21,000 jobs, many of them in Hertford and Bishop’s Stortford. Does he agree that, with the Budget increases to export credit guarantees of £1.2 billion and the favourable exchange rate, there are many more opportunities for our exporters to increase jobs and opportunities ?

    The Prime Minister : I agree with my hon. Friend. The measures announced in the Budget will provide further export cover and cheaper export cover and that is on top of the changes previously made in the autumn statement. They will certainly help United Kingdom firms to win more business abroad and secure more jobs at home.

    Mr. Robert Ainsworth : Is the Prime Minister aware that the non- European Community deficit rose in February to £1.3 billion ? Does he realise that photo opportunities and the ongoing pretence will not solve the basic problem in the British economic system ? When will he tackle the real issues ?

    The Prime Minister : I do not know what the hon. Gentleman means about photo opportunities. I should have thought that 21,000 jobs and many billions of pounds worth of trade were a good deal more than that.

     

    Engagements

    Q2. Mrs. Browning : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 23 March.

    The Prime Minister : This morning, I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in the House, I shall be having further meetings later today.

    Mrs. Browning : Does my right hon. Friend agree that it is most unfair that every household in my constituency is having to pay nearly £9 extra on the council tax because Liberal Democrat-controlled Torbay council and Labour-controlled Plymouth city council have set artificially low collection rates this year of under 92 per cent? If those councils cannot collect the rates, why should payers in Conservative-controlled East Devon have to pick up the tab?

    The Prime Minister : I agree with my hon. Friend. I can see no practical justification for the low collection rates set by Torbay and Plymouth. They are unfair to the council tax payers and they are unfair to council tax payers throughout Devon. I am sure that my hon. Friend will not need reminding that for a band C property, Labour councils will cost the council tax payer £100 extra. For 6 May, the answer is clear–vote Conservative.

    Mr. John Smith : Following the massive tax increases announced in the Budget for this year, next year and the year after, will the Prime Minister tell us whether there are any more tax increases in the pipeline?

    The Prime Minister : This, of course, is from the right hon. and learned Gentleman who had plans to increase tax by £35 billion in his shadow Budget. I made it absolutely clear last week in the House that we do not like raising taxes and we do so only when necessary. The Labour party raises taxes because it wishes to spend other people’s money on their behalf. We do it only when necessary.

    Mr. John Smith : Let me remind the right hon. Gentleman that it is he who has just raised taxes. Why on earth should anyone in this country believe what he says about future taxation when last week he broke clear pledges not to put VAT on gas and electricity and not to increase national insurance contributions? He made those pledges before the election. He broke them a year later.

    The Prime Minister : As I indicated to the right hon. and learned Gentleman a moment ago, we increased indirect taxes because we felt that we had to in the interests of the economy. As the right hon. Member for Birmingham, Sparkbrook (Mr. Hattersley) said,

    “in good times the Tories will hope to cut taxes.”

    So we will and that is what the public expect of us. But perhaps the right hon. and learned Gentleman can explain how he would honour his manifesto commitment to increase child benefit and pensions if he would not put up taxes and he would not increase borrowing. Either he cannot add up or he has broken every single manifesto promise that he set out. Which is it? Is he innumerate or without principles?

    Mr. John Smith : On the question of principles, does not the Prime Minister understand that this shameless Budget has put at issue two fundamental questions : first, the credibility of the Government and the Prime Minister himself, which is now in tatters; and, secondly, the deep unfairness of putting large increases on ordinary families to pay for his Government’s mistakes? Does he not now realise that whatever he says about taxation in the future, no one will and no one should ever believe him?

    The Prime Minister : The right hon. and learned Gentleman’s noble Friend Lord Desai has called for all zero-rate items to be subject to the full rate of value added tax–not just fuel, but transport, books, children’s clothing and food. Will the right hon. and learned Gentleman repudiate that policy expressed by his noble Friend–the Labour party’s economic spokesman in another place?

     

    Q3. Mr. Brandreth : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 23 March.

    The Prime Minister : I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Brandreth : In the light of Friday’s debate on tourism, will my right hon. Friend join me in saluting the British tourist industry in general and the hoteliers of Chester in particular on taking full advantage of a competitive pound to bring good business to Britain and the best business to Chester? Of course, good news for Britain is very bad news for the monomaniacs of misery opposite.

    The Prime Minister : I am happy to congratulate the British tourist industry on something like 18 million visitors to the United Kingdom last year. I have no doubt that, with the present competitive exchange rate, that figure will be well exceeded this year by the excellent British tourist industry in all parts of the United Kingdom.

    Mr. Jamieson : Will the Prime Minister join me in expressing our condolences to the parents and families of the four teenagers in my constituency who lost their lives yesterday in a tragic canoeing accident in Lyme bay? Will he ensure that the appropriate Government Department puts in place a full inquiry into how the tragedy took place and in particular why it took almost four hours for the emergency services to arrive on the scene?

    The Prime Minister : I will certainly join my hon. Friend, as, I am sure, will every hon. Member in the House. Our hearts go out to the parents of all those who died in that tragic incident. I think that it would be wrong, at the moment, to speculate on the causes of the tragedy before the necessary inquiries have been completed. Local inquiries are under way already. The primary responsibility for safety in outdoor school activities lies with the local education authority, or the governing body in the case of grant-maintained schools. In this case, of course, it is Devon local education authority.

    I must emphasise that there is no evidence at this stage that the necessary precautions were ignored. I have asked my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education to consider any action necessary by his Department in the light of this tragic event.

     

    Q4. Mr. Peter Bottomley : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 23 March.

    The Prime Minister : I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Bottomley : My hon. Friend will be aware that leading members of Sinn Fein have said that they find it very difficult to justify any atrocities as bad as the one at Enniskillen in 1987.

    Does my right hon. Friend agree that what limits the power of the Provisional IRA is both hard security and what their supporters are willing to tolerate? Will my right hon. Friend join me and people throughout these islands, in Ireland as well as in the United Kingdom, in condemning the kind of action that can kill a three-year-old and substitute bombs and bullets for arguments and for votes? Will he call on all people to try to persuade those still directing the violence to end it now?

    The Prime Minister : I believe that decent families everywhere will have been sickened by that cold-blooded attack on innocent people going about peaceful business on a spring Saturday lunchtime. Even for the IRA, that attack plumbed the depths. To take the life of an innocent child in that fashion and to wreck other lives is absolutely unforgiveable. It was, quite literally, an evil act, made more evil in my judgment by messages deliberately designed to confuse those people who should have helped to prevent that incident from taking place. That behaviour has done one thing : it has provoked revulsion and determination that violence will not prevail.

    I can assure my hon. Friend that no effort will be spared, within the rule of law, to bring the people responsible to justice. If there were a shred of humanity in the IRA they would hand over those killers for justice without delay. If they do not, as I fear they will not, I hope that they will know that we shall hound them for the rest of their days until we find them and punish them.

    Mr. Hume : I agree with the Prime Minister and my constituents, who know exactly what the people of Warrington have experienced, will join totally with what he has just said.

    Is the Prime Minister aware that the Northern Ireland Housing Executive, which is its public housing authority, has transformed public housing there over the past 20 years, in difficult circumstances, to the point where the Governments of the emergent democracies of eastern Europe are now coming to learn from them? Why have the Government begun the process of privatisation of that public authority and laying off the direct labour force, thus leaving unemployed people who are held in such high respect in our society? Given that his Government make so many efforts to reach agreement among the parties in Northern Ireland and that we are totally agreed on the subject, will the Prime Minister respond positively by keeping the housing executive and its direct labour force in existence?

    The Prime Minister : I am grateful for the hon. Gentleman’s words about the disaster at Warrington. The whole House knows that he has had direct experience of these matters in the past and speaks with a special knowledge of the matter.

    So far as the housing executive is concerned, the proposals made by my right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State are made precisely because he believes that responsibility can be better carried out in another fashion. It is for that reason and for none other that he has proposed those changes.

    Mr. Allason : My right hon. Friend will be aware that water rate payers in Torbay and in the rest of the south-west are facing increased charges of up to 16 per cent. in bills coming through their letter boxes this week. Does my right hon. Friend agree that much of this increase is due to a European directive? Will he also undertake to ensure that representations are made in Brussels to delay the implementation of the infrastructure investment that is being demanded of South West Water and is being put before the charge payers in the south-west?

    The Prime Minister : My hon. Friend may be referring to the bathing water directive, which is, among other things, very important for the tourist industry. The essential reason for the very high bills in the south -west and in some other areas–and, as my hon. Friend will know, I am examining those at the moment–is the sheer scale of the investment in water and sewerage services which, frankly, was not made over the past 30 years in the public sector.

     

    Q5. Mr. Ernie Ross : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 23 March.

    The Prime Minister : I refer the hon. Member to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Ernie Ross : The Prime Minister will have seen the disturbing scenes outside the Timex factory in my constituency yesterday. He will know that this has become a bitter dispute following the sacking by the management of 343 hourly paid employees. Those workers, many of whom are women, have 20 or 30 years’ service to the company. That dispute went through the Government’s employment legislation to the letter. I have asked the Secretary of State for Scotland and my hon. Friend the Member for Dundee, East (Mr. McAllion) and I have asked the Secretary of State for Employment and the Leader of the House to intervene personally, given that those workers have lost their jobs following the Government’s employment legislation. Will the Prime Minister now intervene and ask the company to go to the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service to settle this dispute now?

    The Prime Minister : I note from the reports that none of the people arrested in the scenes at Timex yesterday were workers from Timex. I believe that the ex-convener at Timex said that those dismissed

    “never called for a sit-down demonstration and do not sponsor violence.”

    It seems that rent-a-picket is back and I do not think that that is in the interest of the Timex workers. Workers who choose to go on strike have always faced the risk of being dismissed without the right to claim unfair dismissal. That was the case under legislation enacted by the last Labour Government.

  • PMQT Written Answers – 22 March 1993

    Below is the text of the written answers relating to Prime Minister’s Question Time from 22nd March 1993.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Public Bodies (Appointments)

    Mr. Clelland : To ask the Prime Minister, pursuant to his answer of 9 March, Official Report, column 517, if he will list the former right hon. and hon. Members who have been appointed to bodies in Northumbria to which Ministers make appointments, together with the salaries, emoluments or honoraria paid to the former hon. Members concerned since April 1992.

    The Prime Minister : The information is not held centrally and can be provided only at disproportionate cost.

     

    Nuclear Testing

    Mr. Flynn : To ask the Prime Minister what assessment he has made of the possible contribution of a comprehensive test ban treaty towards nuclear non-proliferation.

    The Prime Minister : A comprehensive test ban would not in itself prevent a proliferator from producing and deploying a crude nuclear weapon without recourse to testing, and from obtaining the materials with which to do this. But associated measures for verification and inspection, if sufficiently rigorous, and applicable to the states concerned, might constrain potential proliferations.

    Mr. Flynn : To ask the Prime Minister what is Her Majesty’s Government’s policy towards the negotiation of a comprehensive test ban treaty by September 1996; and if he will make a statement.

    The Prime Minister : We support the ultimate goal of a comprehensive test ban. The factors which will influence the rate at which progress towards a ban can be made will include the need to develop an effective system of verification. We will also need to be confident that we have the necessary technologies and expertise to maintain the safety of our nuclear weapons at the highest level without testing.

    Mr. Flynn : To ask the Prime Minister what assessment he has made of the effect of the testing of nuclear weapons by emerging nuclear weapon states on the security interests of the United Kingdom; and if he will make a statement.

    The Prime Minister : Since India exploded a nuclear device in 1974, we are aware of no established case of a country other than those recognised by the non-proliferation treaty as nuclear weapons states conducting a nuclear test.

  • Mr Major’s Comments on a Single European Currency – 19 March 1993

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s comments on a single European Currency, made in an interview on Friday 19th March 1993.


    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked where Europe would be in 2001].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    There is no particular target of what might be done by 2011 but I think some things are clearly evidence. We will have a bigger, wider, freer trade area than we have got at present; I think that is undoubted. I hope the EFTAn nations will all securely be members of the Community by then and I would hope by then we will be on the brink of some of the Central and East Europeans joining.

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked if he thought a Central European Bank would be operating by 2001].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    Apart from the political difficulties and as you know there many of those, the key difficulty of course is what will happen to the economies across Europe. There is no attractiveness in a single currency for anyone however enthusiastic they may be about it unless you have the right sort of economic convergence between now and the date at which it comes about. In the last couple of years, that convergence hasn’t proceeded; if anything, there has been divergence rather than convergence so there is a great deal to be done economically before that can come about and I stress the importance of that because if anyone were reckless enough to move to a single currency without the right sort of economic convergence, I believe you’d have structural unemployment and huge difficulties in many parts of Europe.

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked if the final result would be the same, but just taking longer than the planned time-scale].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    The time-scale I think is beginning to look unrealistic. I think that is certainly true but there are many other difficulties to be solved.

  • PMQT Written Answers – 19 March 1993

    Below is the text of the written answers relating to Prime Minister’s Question Time from 19th March 1993.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    General van der Westhuizen

    Mr. Rogers : To ask the Prime Minister which Government officials have meetings with or conducted business with General van der Westhuizen in South Africa or Chile in each year since 1980.

    The Prime Minister : The United Kingdom military attache s in Pretoria were in contact with Lieutenant-General Pieter van der Westhuizen, as chief of staff intelligence (South African military intelligence service), in the normal course of their duties, until their withdrawal in 1985. Our ambassador in South Africa also had occasional contacts during General van der Westhuizen’s period as secretary to the State Security Council between 1985 and 1987.

    During the period of Lieutenant-General van der Westhuizen’s appointment as South African ambassador to Chile from 1987-91, our ambassador in Santiago had occasional contacts with him as a colleague on the diplomatic circuit.

     

    DTI (Security Services)

    Mr. Rogers : To ask the Prime Minister what is the policy of the Government in relation to the transfer of secret intelligence service or security service personnel to the Department of Trade and Industry; and if he will make a statement on the range of functions those personnel carry out in the Department of Trade and Industry.

    The Prime Minister : It is not the Government’s policy to comment on staffing arrangements with respect to the security and intelligence services. Members of these services would, however, be regarded no differently from other Crown servants for the purposes of transfer to employment elsewhere in the public service.

     

    Citizen’s Charter

    Ms Hoey : To ask the Prime Minister which Cabinet Committees deal with the Citizen’s Charter programme.

    The Prime Minister : Citizen’s Charter issues requiring collective discussion would normally fall within the remit of the Ministerial Committee on Home and Social Affairs. In addition, I chair six-monthly ministerial meetings to monitor progress and agree future priorities for the charter programme.

  • PMQT – 18 March 1993

    Below is the text of Prime Minister’s Question Time from 18th March 1993.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Engagements

    Q1. Mr. Anthony Coombs : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 18 March.

    The Prime Minister (Mr. John Major) : This morning, I presided at a meeting of the Cabinet and had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in the House, I shall be having further meetings later today.

    Mr. Coombs : Does my right hon. Friend recall the agreement and the declaration on the environment reached in Rio last year, which achieved the support of all parties in the House and elsewhere? Does he not think it somewhat two-faced of those who support a cleaner environment in principle to reject any measures to achieve it in practice?

    The Prime Minister : I cannot imagine who my hon. Friend may have in mind, but he is right. I seem to remember that after Rio we were attacked by more than one Opposition party for not going far enough on environmental matters. We made our commitment and we have now take action towards meeting it.

    Mr. John Smith : Will the Prime Minister confirm that, as a result of his betrayal of his election promise not to increase taxes, a typical family will have to pay £8.50 per week in extra tax from next April and £12.50 per week in extra tax the following year?

    The Prime Minister : The right hon. and learned Gentleman is the wrong person to remind people about ditching election promises. As I reminded him on Tuesday, he said recently :

    “We would be a very foolish party if we went into an election, say ’95 or ’96, with the same policies as ’92.”

    [Hon. Members :– “Answer the question.”] On his specific question, unlike the Labour party, we do not like raising taxes and we do it only when necessary. I said last year that we had no plans to raise taxes–nor did we– but we have an overriding commitment to return the deficit to balance and to take the action necessary to do that. In the Budget my right hon. Friend the Chancellor acted to meet that overriding commitment and in the interests of everyone in the country he was surely right to do so.

    Mr. Smith : The country will have noted carefully that the Prime Minister did not deny that there will be an extra £8.50 per week of tax for a typical family next year and £12.50 per week the year after. Will the Prime Minister tell us whether people who qualify for income support, including millions of pensioners, will receive increases in benefit to cover in full the tax increases on their fuel bills?

    The Prime Minister : I shall deal directly with the point, but the right hon. and learned Gentleman may care to reflect also upon this : does he or does he not agree with one of his Front-Bench spokesmen in another House– [Interruption.]

    Madam Speaker : Order. Hon. Members must contain themselves. These interruptions only waste time.

    The Prime Minister : Perhaps the right hon. and learned Gentleman will reflect on whether he agrees with his noble Friend in another House who called for all zero-rated items to be subject to the full rate of value added tax. Does the right hon. and learned Gentleman agree with his noble Friend, or does he not?

    As for the right hon. and learned Gentleman’s question about the fuel increase, he should have read carefully what my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer said in his Budget speech. My right hon. Friend made it absolutely clear that there will be extra help for less well off pensioners and other people on low incomes. They will get that help from next April, before the higher fuel bills come in. That help will be additional to the future increase in pensions and other benefits which will take place automatically. Cold weather payments will also be adjusted to reflect increases in fuel costs. The right hon. and learned Gentleman has also neglected to welcome the fact that fuel prices have dropped since privatisation and that further reductions were announced this very morning.

    Mr. Smith : The country will have noticed that the Prime Minister can never give a straight answer to a straight question. The country will also find it shameful that he cannot give a clear commitment to meet in full the increase in taxes for the most vulnerable members of our society. He has no conscience at all about short changing the poor as well as betraying his election commitments?

    The Prime Minister : What the country may have noticed today, of all days, is that on this occasion the right hon. and learned Gentleman made no mention of and gave no welcome to the fall in unemployment. Neither has he mentioned the substantial real incomes increase in pensions ; neither has he mentioned the uprating next April, or the fact that we have not taken back the money put in the base line for the community charge which pensioners will no longer have to pay. None of these and other matters have apparently occurred to the right hon. and learned Gentleman.

     

    North-west Kent

    Q2. Mr. Dunn : To ask the Prime Minister what plans he has to visit north-west Kent.

    The Prime Minister : I am making plans for a series of visits and hope to include Kent among them.

    Mr. Dunn : Is the Prime Minister aware that the people of north-west Kent have always been strong supporters of home ownership and, as such, welcome the changes in stamp duty which will encourage the housing market? They also welcome the new, exciting, radical right-to-buy campaign announced today.

    The Prime Minister : I am grateful to my hon. Friend. I think he will find that that welcome will extend across not just north-west Kent but the whole country. In a recent survey, 89 per cent. of people under 30 said that they wished to own their own homes. We shall again give more of them the opportunity to do so. Raising the stamp duty threshold will halve the number of houses on which stamp duty has to be paid. That, with low interest rates and the lowest mortgage rates for nearly 30 years, will dramatically increase the possibility for millions to become home owners.

     

    Engagements

    Q3. Mr. Gordon Prentice : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 18 March.

    The Prime Minister : I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Prentice : Does the Prime Minister of manufacturing recall that this time last week he did not know the names of the two major competitors of Rolls-Royce and that his ignorance shocked my constituents? Will he join me in condemning the 24 per cent. and 35 per cent. pay increases for the chief executive and chairman of Rolls-Royce at a time when the company is sacking 5,000 skilled workers, including 170 in my constituency?

    The Prime Minister : I have spoken before of my admiration for Pratt and Witney and General Electric. As for the wage increases to which the hon. Gentleman referred, if he were here more often he would know how often I have set out my views on that subject.

     

    Q4. Mr. Sykes : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 18 March.

    The Prime Minister : I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Sykes : I know that, unlike the Jeremiahs in the Labour party, the Prime Minister will welcome the news on the unemployment figures that has been announced today. Will he also welcome the freezing of the uniform business rate that was announced on Tuesday, which will further help job prospects?

    The Prime Minister : I am certainly happy to do that. The Budget was a Budget for business, as my right hon. Friend the Chancellor said. The freeze on business rates will help about 800,000 businesses. Nor was that the Budget’s only boost for business. The chorus of welcome for the Budget from business speaks for itself.

    Mr. Ashdown : How does the Prime Minister justify to the nation a Budget which, over the next three years, will require the poorest tenth of people to pay proportionately twice what the richest tenth will have to pay to bail the country out of his Government’s financial failure?

    The Prime Minister : The right hon. Gentleman has clearly failed to notice the substantial increase in the proportion of the burden that we are asking people on higher incomes to bear. He has neglected that. I hope that he will join his hon. Friend sitting beside him who earlier this week said :

    “I am in favour of taxes on things that pollute.”

     

    Q5. Mr. Ancram : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 18 March.

    The Prime Minister : I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Ancram : Is my right hon. Friend aware that many Conservative Members take grave exception to the heavy-handed behaviour of Chinese Government towards the Governor of the Hong Kong? Will he take up with the Chinese Government their threat to set up an alternative government for Hong Kong, and will he remind them that the whole international community expects agreements to be honoured?

    The Prime Minister : My hon. Friend is entirely right. The British Government stand four square behind the Governor and Government of Hong Kong. The Governor has acted sensitively, resolutely and correctly, and we shall continue to make that clear to the Chinese Government. In doing so, we shall underline three points : the Governor has acted entirely within the terms of the documents that we have agreed with China and we expect the Chinese Government to do likewise ; the Governor’s proposals for greater democracy are widely supported in Hong Kong, in the United Kingdom and in the international community, and I believe that they have wide support across this House ; we and the Governor have gone the extra mile in our efforts to consult China. We remain ready for talks without pre-conditions, but no one should doubt that the Governor has our total support.

     

    Q6. Mr. Turner : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 18 March.

    The Prime Minister : I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Turner : Does the Prime Minister accept that Budget day will be remembered for many years as Black Tuesday? It was the day of taxes on heating, taxes on beer, taxes on petrol and taxes on cars. Will the Prime Minister tell the House and the Country how many more taxes we shall have to endure before, mercifully, we get to the next general election?

    The Prime Minister : It will certainly be a tax on Labour’s ability to win that election when it comes, for my right hon. Friend the Chancellor has put in place the right structure to make sure that we get back the growth, the jobs and the prosperity that we seek. If the hon. Gentleman had been a little more gracious he might, unlike anyone else on the Opposition side, have welcomed not only the drop in unemployment but also the new £100 million manufacturing centre for car components at Wednesbury near Wolverhampton.

    Mr. Bowden : Will my right hon. Friend convey the congratulations of all Conservative Members to his right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Security on his speedy clarification of the help that will be given to those on income support and low-pay pensioners? Will he also please look very closely at the position of the nearly 1 million pensioners who do not claim the income support to which they are entitled, as well as those whose income is very slightly above income support level? If my right hon. Friend could find some way of helping those people to pay the extra VAT on fuel, that would be a major step forward.

    The Prime Minister : I know that my hon. Friend will agree with our right hon. Friend the Secretary of State that it is right to concentrate extra help especially on the poorest households. He will also know that other benefits will automatically increase with prices through the normal uprating mechanism, and my hon. Friend at least–if not the Opposition– will join us in welcoming the fact that fuel prices have fallen in recent years.

     

    Q7. Mr. Pike : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 18 March.

    The Prime Minister : I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Pike : In view of the tax changes announced on Tuesday in relation to mortgage tax relief, will the Prime Minister state whether the Government intend, during the lifetime of this Parliament, to phase out tax relief on mortgages?

    The Prime Minister : No. We made it clear earlier that we would retain the system, and my right hon. Friend the Chancellor set out our immediate proposals.

     

    Q8. Mrs. Ann Winterton : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 18 March.

    The Prime Minister : I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mrs. Winterton : My right hon. Friend will be encouraged by the welcome given by the Manufacturing and Construction Industries Alliance, to which he recently sent a message of support, to the boost to British exporters from the £1.3 billion of extra export credit announced in the Budget, but will he acknowledge the growing concern about the erosion of our manufacturing base? Will he seek to have published the report on these matters prepared by the Department of Trade and Industry which has recently been the subject of much press speculation?

    The Prime Minister : We have not only, of course, extended ECGD but my right hon. Friend the Chancellor has cut premiums over the past few months by as much as 27 per cent. in order to help exporters. We have over recent weeks announced a wide range of policies specifically geared to improve the prospects for manufacturing, both the efficiency of existing manufacturing and the widening of the manufacturing base. I made it clear earlier this week that the paper to which my hon. Friend refers was private advice to Ministers and will not be published.