Category: 1994

  • PMQT – 18 October 1994

    Below is the text of Prime Minister’s Question Time from 18th October 1994.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Engagements

    Q1. Mrs. Anne Campbell: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 18 October.

    The Prime Minister (Mr. John Major): This morning, I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in the House, I shall be having further meetings later today.

    Mrs. Campbell: Did the Prime Minister’s predecessor break the code of conduct for Ministers when her son, Mark Thatcher, made £12 million from the Al-Yamamah arms negotiations?

    The Prime Minister: I have no doubt that my right hon. and noble Friend acted with complete propriety throughout her long and distinguished period as Prime Minister of this country. If the hon. Lady has any evidence to the contrary, I hope that she will produce it rather than peddling remarks like that.

     

    Q2. Mr. Devlin: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 18 October.

    The Prime Minister: I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Devlin: Does my right hon. Friend agree that yesterday’s announcement that Samsung is to bring 3,500 jobs to Stockton-on-Tees will be very welcome in the town, where we have long had high unemployment? Will he confirm the Government’s continuing commitment to the sort of regional policies that have brought that about?

    The Prime Minister: I very much welcome the announcement by Samsung. It is extremely good news for the north-east. Throughout much of the past 30 years, there have been very high levels of unemployment in the north- east and everyone will recognise the importance of that substantial investment. I know that my hon. Friend has campaigned for Cleveland for a long time and will be very pleased by it. It follows a series of other welcome investments–Motorola, Digital and NEC–none of which would have come to this country but for the economic policies that we have followed, the fact that we are not part of the social chapter and the fact that we are members of the European Union.

    Mr. Blair: Since this is our first chance after the recess, may I say how much we welcome the further moves towards peace in Northern Ireland and assure the Prime Minister of our continued support in achieving that peace.

    Last Thursday on BBC television, the Chancellor of the Exchequer specifically ruled out a referendum on a single currency. Did he speak for the Government?

    The Prime Minister: First, may I congratulate the right hon. Gentleman on his new position. It carries with it very great responsibilities, and I wish him well in those responsibilities for as long as he holds them.

    On Northern Ireland, I am grateful for what the right hon. Gentleman had to say. It is and has been an intractable problem for many years. We have made some progress. There is no certainty that we shall be able to carry the process through successfully to a conclusion. I believe that there is a chance–perhaps a better chance than we have known at any time in the past quarter of a century. I intend to take the opportunities that exist, but I hope that I shall carry the House with me in saying that we must take them with care, with caution and in our own time. I believe that that is the only way in which we shall carry with us all the people of Northern Ireland, without which we shall not be able to carry the matter through to a satisfactory conclusion.

    As for the right hon. Gentleman’s substantive question, at the moment no one knows what may be at issue in the intergovernmental conference in 1996. The question of a referendum on any issue does not arise and very probably will not arise.

    Mr. Blair: With all due respect, the Chancellor specifically ruled it out and therefore he thought that it did arise. Is not that the problem: that the Chancellor takes one view on Europe, the Employment Secretary takes another view and the Prime Minister hovers between the two? Does he– [Interruption.]

    Madam Speaker: Order. The House will come to order.

    Mr. Blair: I repeat: he hovers between the two. Does he agree that a divided Government is a weak Government, and a weak Government is no good for Britain?

    The Prime Minister: The right hon. Gentleman has already said that, were he to form a Government, it would be a weak Government, and that is precisely because he said that his Government would not be isolated in Europe. Irrespective of the issue, irrespective of the British interest, irrespective of the views of the House or the Members of the House, and irrespective of the views of his colleagues below the Gangway, the right hon. Gentleman would follow slavishly whatever Europe says. That is not a credible position for any Government in this country.

    We will judge issues on their merits as they arise.

    Sir James Kilfedder: May I congratulate my right hon. Friend on being the first Prime Minister in more than half a century to achieve the cessation of terrorism in Northern Ireland? Is he aware that the people of Northern Ireland fully endorse his careful and cautious approach because, as he realises, until the terrorists hand over their dumps of Semtex explosives and arms, there is the real danger that they or a breakaway group could easily use them on some pretext, saying that the British Government had failed to deliver their promises?

    The Prime Minister: My hon. Friend speaks with a great deal of knowledge of the situation in Northern Ireland for many years, and has had to live through many tragedies affecting his constituents. I listen, therefore, very carefully to what he has to say about Northern Ireland.

    As I said a moment ago, we shall continue to be cautious. Armaments– especially Semtex and detonators, perhaps more than guns–are a crucial issue that will have to be dealt with as we advance the process.

     

    Q3. Mr. Pike: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 18 October.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Pike: Recognising the Prime Minister’s commitment to the national health service, as restated last week, will he understand the worry that exists at national blood transfusion service centres under threat of closure, such as Lancaster and Liverpool, where the staff are drawing attention to the dangers of reduction in service if those centres are allowed to close? Will he intervene now and say that those centres must be kept open to maintain the level of service?

    The Prime Minister: I entirely agree with the hon. Gentleman that it is important to have a proper blood service in all parts of the country. I will ensure that my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Health examines in detail the remarks that he made this afternoon.

    It should be recognised throughout the House and beyond that there is no one in the House who does not share an affection for the national health service, who does not wish to see it built up– [Interruption.] Many of the Opposition Members who are muttering sat in the House when the last Labour Government cut the hospital programme by a third. They should know that there are now 20,000 more doctors, an extra 3,000 patients treated every day, and one large increase in facilities costing more than £1 million for every eight days throughout the 15 years that the Conservative party has been in power. That is a formidable commitment to the national health service, and it is the commitment of this Government.

     

    Q4. Mr. Nigel Evans: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 18 October.

    The Prime Minister: I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Evans: Does my right hon. Friend agree that the recent news that there is to be a central computer for organ donors is welcome, not only to the 5,000-plus people awaiting organ transplants, but to their families?

    Can he assure us that when the scheme starts it will be given as much publicity as possible to entice as many millions of people as possible to register?

    The Prime Minister: I will certainly look at what my hon. Friend has to say. There is no doubt that a central register will help hospitals and bring a great deal of new hope to the people waiting for life-saving operations. We will, therefore, examine the issue of publicity and see that the scheme gets as much as possible.

     

    Q5. Mr. Clelland: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 18 October.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Clelland: When millions of British families are suffering mass unemployment, poverty, a deteriorating environment and rampaging crime, is it right that so much attention should be focused on the marital problems of one very rich family?

    The Prime Minister: I have no intention of commenting on the subject to which the hon. Gentleman clearly refers.

    On the subject of employment and unemployment, the hon. Gentleman might welcome, with me, the fact that unemployment has now been falling consistently, in large numbers, for getting on for two years–including a further fall of 28,000 just a few days ago. That trend looks as though it will continue; it is a trend that has come about because we have now returned to a position of low inflation and high growth. Indeed, for one of the very few periods in the past 50 years or so, growth now exceeds inflation. That is the best guarantee, not only of more jobs, but of ensuring that those with jobs retain secure jobs in future.

     

    Q6. Mr. Bellingham: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 18 October.

    The Prime Minister: I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Bellingham: Is my right hon. Friend aware that, on the subject of grant-maintained schools, Norfolk is in the lead? In those schools morale is high and, above all, there is overwhelming parental support. Will my right hon. Friend confirm that he will not return those grant-maintained schools to local authority control–unlike the Leader of the Opposition, who wants to turn the education clock back to the failed policies of the 1960s and 1970s?

    The Prime Minister: I certainly can offer my hon. Friend the reassurance that he seeks. The development of grant-maintained schools has been a great success. It has tremendous support from well over 1 million parents. [Interruption.] I think that the Opposition are saying that it is a disaster that 1 million parents are now getting what they want for their children. The Government do not regard that as a disaster; the Government regard that as choice, which I thought was now one of the mantras of the new Labour party.

     

    Q7. Mr. Tyler: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 18 October.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Tyler: In the light of his previous answer, can the Prime Minister reassure the House that his Administration is now a sleaze-free zone?

    The Prime Minister: I am as concerned as any Member in the House or any person in this country that we should have the highest standards in public life. I approve of corruption no more than I assume does the hon. Gentleman, and I will not accept it. Our public servants and our public institutions are acknowledged to be among the best in the world. In order to maintain that reputation in administration and in politics, wrongdoing will have to be rooted out wherever it is, and I shall seek to ensure that it is.

    Sir Anthony Durant: I congratulate my right hon. Friend on his skill in dealing with the situation in Northern Ireland. We strongly support the caution that he is exerting in the negotiations. Meanwhile, will he ensure that there are enough troops on the streets of Northern Ireland to reassure the people of Northern Ireland?

    The Prime Minister: I am happy to give my hon. Friend that assurance. The details of policing on the streets are properly a matter for the General Officer Commanding and the Chief Constable, not for direct political decision. But for as long as it is necessary for the police, the RUC or troops to be on the streets of Northern Ireland to protect all its people, whichever part of Northern Ireland they come from, they will be made available.

     

    Q8. Mr. McFall: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 18 October.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. McFall: Does the Prime Minister agree that his noble Friend Lord Archer owes the public an explanation as to his share dealings? Will he therefore authorise a DTI report on those share dealings?

    The Prime Minister: I welcome the opportunity that the hon. Gentleman has given me to make the position entirely clear; I agree with the hon. Gentleman that it is appropriate that I should do so. There are clear statutory procedures surrounding investigations of the sort that concern Lord Archer. When concern first arose about the Anglia TV share dealings, my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade appointed independent inspectors to investigate the circumstances surrounding dealings in Anglia Television shares–

    Mr. Campbell-Savours: Why did they not publish?

    The Prime Minister: If the hon. Gentleman will wait a while the whole House will be able to hear the answer that his hon. Friend has requested.

    When the inspectors’ report was received, my right hon. Friend the President also took independent legal advice on their conclusions. It was therefore on the basis of the inspectors’ conclusions and of the legal advice that my right hon. Friend sought that he decided that there was no further action to be taken under the insider dealing legislation. If there had been, action would have been taken. If I may deal now with the question shouted by the hon. Member for Workington (Mr. Campbell-Savours), there is no provision in the Financial Services Act 1986 for inspectors’ reports to be published. Indeed, when the Bill was considered before Parliament it was made clear that inspectors’ reports would not be published. Investigations are undertaken on that basis; evidence is given on that basis; and it would not be right to change the position retrospectively.

  • PMQT Written Answers – 17 October 1994

    Below is the text of the written answers relating to Prime Minister’s Question Time from 17th October 1994.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    South Africa

    Mr. Llew Smith: To ask the Prime Minister if he discussed arms and military equipment exports with South African Government members during his visit to South Africa in September.

    The Prime Minister: There was reference during my visit to the on- going confidential discussions between our two Governments concerning defence exports.

    Mr. Llew Smith: To ask the Prime Minister what matters in regard to nuclear safeguards, nuclear materials security and nuclear trade were raised during his visit to South Africa in September.

    The Prime Minister: Those matters were not raised during my recent visit to South Africa. They are, however, frequently discussed by relevant experts from both our countries in the appropriate international forums.

     

    Coppicing

    Mr. Dalyell: To ask the Prime Minister, pursuant to the letter of the hon. Member for Esher (Mr. Taylor) of 28 July, what assessment he has made of the environmental impact of coppicing as an integral part in Her Majesty Government’s on-going programmes in renewable energy; what engineering assessment he has made of the development of suitable machinery for the harvesting of short-rotation coppice by Loughry college in County Tyrone; and what action he is taking to support its commercialisation in the marketplace.

    The Prime Minister: The environmental impact of coppicing was studied by the energy technology support unit in 1988, in its report, “Energy Forestry in Britain: Environmental issues”–ETSU B 1166. Its main conclusion was that such environmental impacts should be no more severe than those associated with other forms of arable farming. Nevertheless, further, more detailed, work continues, with advice from, among others, the Countryside Commission, the Countryside Council for Rural Wales, English Nature, the Game Conservancy Trust, the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds and the Forestry Authority.

    An assessment of the original version of the Loughry college harvester was reported in ETSU B 1382. A new, simpler, version developed with funding from the Department of Agriculture for Northern Ireland, is now being assessed. This newer machine is not yet at a stage where commercial development would be appropriate. Copies of the reports have been placed in the Library of the House.

     

    Nuclear Weapons, Iraq

    Mr. Llew Smith: To ask the Prime Minister what discussions he had with the Government of Saudi Arabia on their policy towards the Iraqi nuclear weapons programme during his visit to Jeddah on 19 September.

    The Prime Minister: My discussions with King Fahd covered a wide variety of issues on Iraq, and underscored the closeness of our policies towards that country.

    We support the United Nations’ Special Commission’s efforts to eliminate Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction capability, as called for in United Nations Security Council resolution 687. Although United Nations weapons inspectors have noted improved Iraqi co-operation, gaps remain in accounting for Iraq’s past weapons programmes. For that reason, and to avoid placing unhelpful pressure on UNSCOM, I believe that it is crucial that the length of the probationary period for monitoring Iraqi compliance remain open-ended.

     

    Official Meetings

    Mr. McCartney: To ask the Prime Minister, pursuant to his answer on 11 July, Official Report, column 375 , if he will now make it his policy to collect and publish statistics on the number of official meetings he holds with hon. and right hon. Members on constituency matters at 10 Downing Street, broken down by political party and by regions in which their constituencies are situated.

    The Prime Minister: No. I have nothing further to add to the answer which I gave to the hon. Member on 11 July, Official Report, column 375.

     

    Diesel Fuel

    Mr. Dalyell: To ask the Prime Minister, pursuant to the letter of 4 July from Baroness Cumberlege, Health Minister, to the hon. Member for Linlithgow, what assessment he has made of the adequacy of co-ordination between the Departments of Health, of the Environment, and of Transport, and the Treasury on the latest scientific understanding of the use of diesel fuel.

    The Prime Minister: I am content with the existing arrangements. The Departments of Health and of the Environment are advised on health issues related to diesel and other fuels by expert committees. Officials from the Departments of Health, of the Environment and of Transport and the Treasury are in frequent consultation on those matters.

  • Mr Major’s Speech to the 1994 Conservative Party Conference – 14 October 1994

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s speech to the 1994 Conservative Party Conference on 14th October 1994.


    PRIME MINISTER:

    Mr. President, the political landscape has changed in the last few years, and it’s changed again in the last few months. The language of politics is now Conservative language. With every speech and every copied aspiration, the Labour Party finally admit how wrong they have been for so long, and how right we have been.

    So forget the hype. It’s we who’ve changed the whole thrust of politics and moved it in our direction. We have won the battle of ideas, and it is an astonishing triumph.

    When the Labour Party consider what has happened, they may realise what they’ve done, because what they’ve done is to study our instincts and our attitudes and then go away and market test them. And when they’ve done that they’ve discovered what we told them long ago: that they are the hopes and dreams of the typical Briton. It’s a huge compliment to this party and we should accept it gratefully.

    But it’s one thing for the Labour Party to commit grand larceny on our language. It’s one thing for them to say what market research has told them that people would like to hear. But it’s quite another to deliver it. They have some hard questions to answer.

    If you talk of full employment, then you should say what you mean. And then you should explain how that could possibly square with the minimum wage and the Social Chapter, which sound comforting but are deadly to jobs. And if you talk of low tax and low spending, does that mean supporting Tory tax cuts and Tory expenditure reductions? As to that we shall see before the writ of this parliament is run.

    If you preach about community, then you shouldn’t grow politically fat on the politics of envy – and didn’t Blackpool reek of it last week? And if you’re going to attack over-mighty government and bureaucracy, then you shouldn’t promise Scottish and Welsh parliaments with more bureaucrats and more taxation.

    And if you do, you should answer the question: Will Scottish Members of Parliament be permitted to vote on matters in England that English Members of Parliament would not be permitted to vote on in Scotland? And if Labour plan a Scottish Parliament, will they plan also to reduce the number of Scottish MPs in the House of Commons at Westminster, or will they gerrymander the Commons to boost their own political chances?

    Mr. President, these are deep waters. So let Labour be the party of devolution. We are the party of Union, the party of the United Kingdom.

    Mr. President, I’ve relished this debate. These are great issues, but they are our issues, this is our ground, and upon this there is a battle to be fought that this party will undoubtedly win. So I have this advice for you: don’t waste time on the past – it’s gone. Out there, up and down the country, people are concerned about the future, not the past. That is where the political debate should be, and that is where I intend to take it in the months and years ahead.

    In politics, if you expect the unbelievable, then you’ll never be surprised. It is probable that at the next election, the government and the alternative government will both be talking Tory language. But there is a difference: only one will mean it. Buying Tory policies from Labour is like buying the Rolex on the street corner. It may bear the name, but you know that it isn’t real. Our task is to promote the real thing, and expose the counterfeit. We hear talk of a new Labour Party. A new Labour Party. These aren’t people without a past, lovable little extra-terrestrials beamed down for the duration.

    Mr. President, since 1979, we’ve beaten the old Labour Party, the very old Labour Party, the redesigned Labour Party and the new model Labour Party. And as for this new, “biologically improved” Labour Party, it may wash blander, but I would give it a shelf life of under three years.

    Mr. President, at Blackpool, Labour filched two of the principles on which we fought the last general election: opportunity and responsibility. But wasn’t it interesting that they left out two others: personal choice and private ownership. They’re vital to us.

    So socialism may be a bit out in Islington just now, but Conservatism isn’t off my agenda. As they so often invent what we think, let me tell them clearly what we stand for: we believe in free markets, we believe in private ownership. It doesn’t go against the grain for us to say so. It’s not a new Conservatism that we’ve just discovered, it’s one of the oldest principles of our party and we believe in it passionately.

    And because we’ve believed in it, millions of families up and down the land now have savings of their own: Granny bonds, TESSAs, PEPs, the hundreds of billions of pounds in the banks and building societies. It is our philosophy that has given people that choice and that security. That is the message that we must carry forward. Our opponents present ownership as if it was something selfish, self-centred, perhaps even greedy. Some people are all of these things, but most are not. People who have earned well, people who have saved, people who have inherited the fruits of a parent’s lifetime’s work are not the “undeserving rich”.

    No, Mr. Brown, they are deserving workers. How does Clause IV put it – “by hand or by brain”. So let me hammer the point home ever more clearly: we are the party of savings, of ownership, of property, of personal independence. We offer people choice: the liberty to grow, and yes, the liberty to make their own mistakes. We admire success in life, and we will never, never, never resent it in other people.

    We try to remove government from the everyday lives of people. We believe that every family should be entitled to enrich their own private corner of life, and then pass it on to their children without over-mighty taxation. That, Mr. President, is what Conservatism is about, and there is only one party in this land that truly believes it.

    Mr. President, I know when people hear the word “economy”, the spirits droop. They think they’re in for a lecture on the PSBR, GDP, and all the rest of it. Well, you’re normally right, but not today. I just want to say today that the word “economy” should lift the spirits and not depress them, because the great cries of lasting growth with low inflation, which we have sought for the whole of my adult lifetime, is now within our grasp. Whisper it gently, but we are now doing well as a country.

    For most people, it isn’t their everyday experience, not yet. But it will be, and I’ll tell you why. Britain is making more, selling more, exporting more. This time we have built a recovery to last, built on firm foundations, on export and investment. Month after month after month, exports from Britain have broken the record set the month before, and they did so again just last week.

    These islands of ours are exporting cameras to Japan – you did hear me right, cameras to Japan; computers to Germany; cars to America; clothing to Hong Kong, and Cosmetics to France. We know what we were told. We were told unemployment would go on rising to five million. It’s been falling for the best part of two years, and Michael Portillo announced another fall earlier this week.

    We were told we wouldn’t get interest rates down, but we have; that we couldn’t hit low inflation, but we have. These are the very things that bring security, make jobs safe, improve living standards and strengthen this country’s influence right across the world.

    What is the prize that lies ahead? Let me tell you what it could be. In 1954, in Blackpool, “Rab” Butler was speaking to this conference. Suddenly he said something quite extraordinary. He said that living standards could double in this country in 25 years. People scoffed, but he was right. For the country as a whole they did double in 25 years.

    So let us have the courage to look forward once again. If we are able to keep inflation down, as we must, and control public spending, as we must, what does that mean for our people? It means stronger growth, improving the services we care about – education, health, the police service; it means more money in people’s pockets and more free choice for those people.

    Britain has changed. It may not have been noticed but it has changed. Not for 30 years has this economy grown so much faster than prices. So let us bang the drum and say so. It’s time to put the marker down, but as Ken Clarke told you yesterday, we need to stick at it, and for this reason neither Ken nor I, ever again, want to go through the boom-bust cycle that causes so much pain and so many lost hopes for so many people up and down this country.

    And that is why in some ways we are a bit puritanical. That’s why we are so determined to control public spending, improve competitiveness, cut regulation, and let private enterprise build public wealth. That’s why we’ll be prudent about what we spend, cut taxes where we can, and above all build up the long-term health and strength of our industry and of our economy.

    Mr. President, it’s time for this country to set our sights high again. What “Rab” Butler saw was prophetic and positive. Let me echo it today. Because of what has been achieved, with the right determination, with the right policies, we have the chance once again to double our living standards in the next 25 years, and that is something that everyone in this country can feel good about and feel good today.

    Mr. President, I want to talk about education. How many people in this world are fulfilled, really fulfilled? How many do the jobs that they might do? How many have had their minds stretched and extended? “Not enough” is the answer. Not as many by hundreds of thousands as should have. That’s why education matters so much to me. I’m just burned enough to know a little about that. I left my chance late, so I did a lot of my schooling while off for a year with a shattered leg, in the company of Trollope, and Jane Austen, and Adam Smith, and a lot of dull but terribly useful books on banking. Better companions one never had, until now.

    But I was lucky. Not everyone is. It’s my personal ambition that everyone should have the same chance to rise to the top on merit. Never mind where they come from, what their parents income is, what their religion is, or what their colour is. These are irrelevant, and please God they will always remain irrelevant to the people of this country. What matters to me is that they have the same chance.

    Good schools can be a lifeline out of poverty, the ladder to a better life. That’s what our changes are all about: the curriculum, the testing, the league tables, the inspection, the new parental choice, the challenge to the old council school monopoly, the emphasis on better vocational education, and the creation of new universities. Mr. President, it is not reform for its’ own sake, it is reform to deliver higher standards for all our children.

    Bad teaching fails children. They may get through if they come from families with a social edge, a sophisticated home and the good books that go with it, but bad schooling falls most heavily on pupils who have none of these things – children from homes without a book in the house, from blaring day-long television homes.

    Mr. President, we are a national party, and these children are as much our responsibilities as are the higher climbers. If the school ladder’s all abstract theory and holds out no rungs of letters, facts and numbers, who loses? The children lose. The people who need our protection lose. The people easily defeated lose. The people who live at the bottom of the heap who deserve a chance to get off it lose, and it’s just plain wrong.

    And that is why I want teaching in the weaker schools to be levered up, because if it is, someone will get off the bottom of the heap, and if it isn’t that is where they will stay, probably for the rest of their lives. I will never accept that. I’ve no time for those who are complacent and oppose improvement, and all too often they are the high priests of the politically correct.

    They are the people who can afford the good things in life, who chortle away about our emphasis on basic standards and the three ‘R’s, and then move to a different catchment area, with better schools for their own children. They’re people who have in their own homes the books that they say other people’s children aren’t up to reading. They are the people I cannot take, the kind of people who have clambered up the ladder and then seem ever ready to kick it away from other people.

    Education’s there to lift the eyes, broaden the horizon, distinguish between the great and the trite, the right and the wrong. It’s there to unlock the gate to a better life, and by and large teachers deliver this. They have a hell of a job, but they can make the difference for children between apathy and despair, and seeing the remote but inviting light upwards and out.

    Teachers that do their work well, for heaven’s sake, teachers that do their work well, are the prime route out of the class trap. I care enough about teachers to give bad teachers a bad time, and I care about children enough to oppose sloppy, experimental teaching that ignores common sense.

    Up and down the country, dedicated teachers have worked hard to put our reforms in place. They haven’t always liked every aspect of them; so we’ve listened. Sometimes they have been right and we have changed our minds. Many teachers feel there’s been too much paperwork. I agree with them, and there still is.

    That’s why we’ve been working with them on slimming down the National Curriculum. We’ve now finished that job, and it’s been dramatically cut, and we’re now out to reduce much of the other paperwork that schools have to deal with. Teachers should be marking homework, they shouldn’t be doing it, and we’re determined that is how it will be. After the curriculum changes of recent years, teachers deserve stability, to be able to get on with their jobs without any more upheavals. So today I promise them this: there will be no further significant changes for the next five years.

    And there’s another area in which we must give teachers our full support. I’m disturbed by some of the stories I hear – too many stories to ignore – about violent attacks on teachers and false allegations against them. The teachers’ unions are concerned about these issues and so are we. In this area, the unions deserve our support and the unions will get our support. But education involves fun as well as facts. Schools are friendlier, less forbidding places than once they used to be, and I think that’s good. But they seem to have lost something. I don’t regard sport, especially team sport, as a trivial add-on to education. It’s part of the British instinct, it’s part of our character. Sport is fun, and it deserves a proper place in the lives of all our children.

    Of course it can’t supersede Maths and English, though how I longed for it to do so when I was at school! But it must take its proper place alongside them. We are therefore changing the National Curriculum to put competitive games back at the heart of school life. Sport will be played by children in every school, from five to sixteen, and more time must be devoted to team games. Many schools already offer at least two hours a week for sport and physical education. That should be the minimum, and I hope schools will offer more.

    Schools should establish links with local clubs and national sports bodies to help do this. They must open up their facilities outside school hours, and harness the willing help that I know is out there. There are sports coaches, parents and other volunteers by the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds who will willingly come in outside school hours to help our youngsters have a better grounding in sport, and all it means, for the rest of their lives. So while we’re about it, I don’t want councils selling off school playing fields they may need. I want those playing fields kept, and I want those playing fields used.

    Mr. President, there are many views about nursery education. My view is quite clear: I am in favour of it. The picture’s improving. Over half our three and four-year-olds go to nursery school. Nine out of ten have been to a playgroup or nursery school before they’re five. I think it’s time to accelerate this trend. So I’ve asked Gillian Shepherd to work up proposals to provide places for all four-year-olds whose parents wish them to take it up.

    This is a long-term proposal, but we intend that this new provision will begin to come on-stream during the lifetime of this parliament. This won’t be an easy exercise. We must consult parents and practitioners to get it right, because any additional publically-funded provision must be of high quality, it must promote diversity and parental choice, and it must be carefully targeted in a way that expands and does not crowd out the private and voluntary provision that we have at present.

    Since we are making a lasting change to pre-school opportunities, we will have to phase in the introduction of this extra provision, but what I am doing today is giving you a cast-iron commitment that it will happen, and I’m giving you that commitment now so that Gill Shephard can start consulting on it next week.

    Mr. President, I intend now to dispose of one of the most insidious lies in British politics. In life, some of our deepest convictions are formed by experience. Book-learning is vital, but life-learning runs deeper. When I was a boy, my father was elderly and sick, and my mother was frail. Their life wasn’t comfortable; they needed treatment regularly. They got it from the National Health Service. They had no money to pay, but they weren’t asked for any. I saw then, not only how well they were treated by the National Health Service, but the security of mind it gave them to know that it would always be available. I have never forgotten it.

    Now let me tell you a later story. Two weeks ago when Boris Yeltsin was at Chequers, we went for a walk. There was some comment afterwards that I was using a walking-stick. Naturally if I was using a walking-stick there must be an ulterior motive – was this my bid for the rural vote? Well, no, actually. I was using a walking-stick because I injured my leg badly in a car accident thirty years ago. For a while, that many years ago, I thought I might use it. It was saved by treatment on the National Health Service. I have never forgotten that either.

    Against that background, is it likely that I would damage the National Health Service or privatise it? Believing as I do that the greatest nightmare for millions is that one day, however prosperous they are today, that one day they may be old, sick, poor and uncared for, is it likely that I would take away from them the security of mind that was of such value to my parents? Mr. President, I can tell you, not while I live and breathe would I take that away.

    Let me say something else about the Health Service: It is the National Health Service, it doesn’t belong to any one political party. The Labour Party, even today, take credit for setting up the NHS. I wouldn’t take that away from them – it’s one of the few bits of their past they don’t currently seem willing to repudiate. But who has been in government for most of the fifty years since the Health Service was established? We have. It is we, the Conservative Party, who have been in government for most of those fifty years. It is we, the Conservative Party, who have cherished the National Health Service, and built it up year after year after year after year. Mr. President, it’s our Service too.

    But there is one difference between us and Labour. We don’t use it as a political football for party ends. Mr. President, we just build it up. I wonder how many of you know how many huge new hospital projects have been built since 1980 – you know, that period during which it’s said we have been running the National Health Service down? How many? None? Five? Ten? Twenty? A hundred? More than that? Surely not. In fact yes. The actual figure is over seven hundred big projects, each costing more than a million pounds and some of them many tens of millions for the one project.

    And I’m not talking about car parks and offices, I’m talking about patient facilities – new hospitals, operating theatres, pharmacies, maternity units and the like – all within the National Health Service, seven hundred of them since 1980, and I saw the latest bulletin here today: a new day surgery unit in the Royal Bournemouth Hospital just down the road. But there’s more. Consider it, perhaps, as it is: one multi-million pound National Health Service project every eight days the Conservative Party have been in government, throughout its fifteen years. That’s not words, it’s reality, and go out and tell it because it’s our Service too. So I have a message for Labour’s Health Spokesman, “Junket” Blunkett.

    Mr. President, when I became Prime Minister, I asked for a fresh look at the criminal justice system: the way we prevent crime, the way we police our streets, and the way we punish the criminal, and I did so because I felt that concern had shifted too much towards the criminal and too far from the victim. Why is there so much crime? The cheap, thought-free answer is to blame the so-called “acquisitive 80s”, but that’s just party political posturing; the roots are deeper than that. It is a long-term trend: sadly too many people feel less respect for their neighbours and for their neighbours property than once they did. And yes, I believe we have fostered too easy, too casual a response to crime by too great a tolerance of crime over many years.

    There have been too many voices excusing crime, explaining crime, and justifying crime. We think that’s wrong. That’s why we’ve increased penalties for rape, violence against children, firearms offences, drug-related crime and crimes committed on bail. And so that we can not be said by our opponents to have ignored what our opponents call our “friends in the city”, let me say we have also increased sentences for financial crime.

    For a whole range of crimes, then, we have toughened sentences, and judges are now using them. For the first time in years, a rising proportion of convicted criminals are being sent to prison. I take no pleasure in that, but everyone has the chance to stay within the law, and that is the point. If we are to change the climate against crime, then the offender and the offender’s chums must know they will not be able to swagger out of court, untouched, immune and boasting about getting off scot-free.

    I believe such firmness is right, and I believe it is necessary. Prison should be decent, but it should be spartan. No-one wants to alienate and harden attitudes, but prison is there to punish and not to pander. I fear that is not always the case, and where it is not, Michael [Howard] and I are agreed, it will have to change. But don’t let us fool ourselves. Punishment alone will not do the trick. We have to change attitudes, improve policing, and support the innovative methods of Chief Constables. We are now developing much more targeted approaches to crime – new approaches; we’re investing in more effective crime prevention.

    We must make streets safe for the law-abiding and dangerous for the criminal, and that is why we’re putting yet more money into closed-circuit television. It’s been a huge success, not only in big cities like Newcastle, but in smaller places like King’s Lynn as well. We’re going after drug dealers and drug trafficking, putting together the most comprehensive campaign against drug use ever launched in this country, and we will be announcing the details of this next week.

    And we are putting modern science at the disposal of the police. As Michael Howard told you yesterday, we’re giving them wider powers to take DNA samples from people they suspect of crime, and that will help target sex offenders against women and children, and as a result help make this country just a little bit safer for millions and millions of people. The powers in the Criminal Justice Bill are needed, and I can tell conference this: we will never be deterred by the disgraceful riots like those we saw in London last weekend. And the sooner the Labour leadership disowns those Labour MPs involved in organising and speaking at this event, the sooner we may be prepared to take seriously some of their strictures on crime.

    And I can tell you how I feel about that episode: I think there’s something profoundly sick with people who organise a demonstration which turns into a riot, and then criticize and attack the police who are only there to protect the public from the results of that riot. Mr. President, we hear enough bad news about crime. Let me tell you some good news. In Manchester crime fell by 12% in the last year; by 12% too in my own county of Cambridgeshire; in North Wales by 10%. What does that tell us? Not to relax, never. It doesn’t tell us to be complacent. But it does tell us we can fight back successfully. If you can target burglary and cut it in London and Warwickshire then you can do it elsewhere. Mr. President, it will take a national effort to beat crime, it will take time, and it must involve everyone, but we are determined to succeed and we have made a beginning.

    Many of the changes I’ve been talking about have come about in the last year or so, and I believe that people who have spent that time criticising my good colleague Michael Howard would have been far better off supporting him during that year.

    Mr. President, a generation ago it was said that Britain had lost an empire but not yet found a role. It may or may not have been true then, but it surely isn’t true today, because economically and militarily Britain remains in the top league – a member of the permanent five of the United Nations, a leading member of NATO, of the European Union, and of a Commonwealth that covers one-third of all the people on earth, a member of the Group of Seven of the worlds’ most powerful economies and one of only five significant nuclear powers in the world, and we have too as a priceless asset, perhaps the finest professional armed forces anywhere.

    That is Britain today, stripped of the masking-tape so often placed above it. So let’s recognise what we are, look with confidence at the new world, and go out and put our own distinctive British mark on it. The changes taking place around the world are truly awesome. I’m not sentimental about them – I know how fragile they are. Two months ago I was in Warsaw, where the first bombs fell in 1939, fifty years on from the heroic uprising in the Warsaw ghetto. It was good to be there. That August evening, we met in a free Poland, whose President was Lech Walesa, a shipyard worker who helped to change history. And taking his hand in friendship were the leaders of a democratic Russia and a united Germany. Poland’s past enemies were there as friends; hope had flowered and the world had changed.

    A month later I flew to Berlin, where allied forces were leaving after half a century. That day, our troops marched away from Berlin with that professionalism and that patience which is the special preserve of the British soldier. For nearly fifty years, they had stood guard for peace and freedom at the gates of Berlin; now they were no longer needed; the world had changed. Three weeks ago, I was in South Africa. When Harold Macmillan spoke there of the “wind of change”, it was to an all-white audience and a South Africa that was soon to leave the Commonwealth. But I spoke to a parliament freely elected by all South Africans, and that great country is back in the Commonwealth, back where it belongs.

    And what a tribute that is, to the statesmanship and the vision of Nelson Mandela and F.W. De Klerk. Finally, Mr. President, I flew from South Africa back to Chequers. There Boris Yeltzin was my guest, and the President of Russia and the British Prime Minister shared a country house weekend, a walk in the English countryside, and a pint of beer in a British pub. Four snapshots of change, historic days, when the impossible becomes not just possible but an everyday reality. Now the cold war is over, but while the threat was there, there were appeasers and accomodaters in plenty – but not in our party. We can say it with pride: We never heard their voices in this hall.

    As in the past, so in the future. Whatever uncertainties may lie ahead, this nation can trust that instinct for security that is a defining characteristic of the Conservative Party. Mr. President, the challenge now is to catch the tide of events that have flown in recent years so very strongly in our favour, to draw the nations of eastern Europe – historic, vivid nation states: Poland, Hungary, the Czech lands, and others – back into the European camera, to make democratic Russia an ally and not a threat, to help the democracies in the third world escape the excessive debt that cripples their development – and time after time it has been British initiatives that have led the way in achieving this, to use our age-old links with Africa to help prepare that troubled continent for a better future.

    These are historic roles; historic roles for which Britain and the Conservative Party are marked out by history and by experience. We will use that experience. We will use it also to carve out the right position for Britain in the right sort of Europe. There are extraordinary enthusiasms – hopes, fears, apprehensions – on both sides of the European argument, but I made our general position clear with my speech at Leiden. I believe it carries with it the overwhelming majority of this country, and that is the basis on which I will negotiate in 1996.

    And if I am not satisfied, I will do as I have done in the past: I will just say “No” to changes that will harm Britain. But I hope I will be able to secure an agreement that we can accept, for that is in the best interests of Britain. Across the world, the last four years have been turbulent. The years ahead may well be turbulent as well. We will be cautious, pragmatic and safe, but the world remains uncertain and unstable. If anything the end of the cold war has made regional wars more likely and not less likely. We cannot safely assume that it will be a safe world. Only this week we have seen how quickly a crisis can blow up in the Middle East, but who better to send there and act for Britain than Douglas Hurd, our own Foreign Secretary.

    Mr. President, we have interests the world over. Isolationism is a luxury that Britain cannot afford, and there is a growing need for regional peace deals – we are very good at them; the defence of British interests does not always lie on British soil. So we will continue to play a leading role, as we have always done, through the United Nations.

    Mr. President, the main point’s clear: while we have Conservative government, Britain will have a sure and stable defence, the best equipment, the best weapons, the best trained troops that we are able to provide. Last week showed again how distinctive that position of ours truly is. In opposition it doesn’t matter that Labour voted to scrap Trident – in Government it would. In opposition it doesn’t matter that the first place Labour would look for cuts would be another defence review – in Government it would.

    So let me mark out the clear ground, so that no-one serving our country in uniform is in any doubt. Three months ago, we confirmed our frontline would have an extra three thousand troops, and placed five thousand million pounds worth of orders and tenders for modern and effective equipment for the army, the navy and the air force. That, Mr. President, made implicit what I will now make explicit: the big upheavals in our armed forces are over. They deserve the best from us and they will get it.

    Let me say something about Northern Ireland, and the momentous events through which we are living. For the past 25 years, Northern Ireland has faced the daily horror of murder and brutality, kneecapping and beatings, organised racketeering and viciousness to fund terrorism for political ends. No morning has dawned that might not contain an atrocity: a father who didn’t return home, a woman or child indiscriminately bombed, a policeman or soldier killed by a hidden sniper. That evil has spread, from time to time, to mainland Britain: the Brighton Bomb, ten years ago this very day, that some of you will be remembering so vividly and so painfully. We still miss those who were lost and think of those who were injured. It was intended to murder a cabinet, but it ended up hardening the resolve of an indomitable Prime Minister.

    We remember the murders of Airey Neave and of Ian Gow, the bombs in the city and at Downing Street, the agony of Warrington, and the heart-rending memories of Tim Parry and Johnathan Ball who will never know the future that should have been theirs. What did those two little boys ever know of political disputes? In all this time, these long twenty-five years, the extraordinary people of Northern Ireland have carried on with their lives. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom. All the people of Northern Ireland need to know that a search for a solution to their problems is right at the top of the British government’s agenda, and I solemnly give them that promise.

    We have made progress. It was the Downing Street Declaration that set out the principles that will continue to guide us. It helped isolate the IRA and push them to their ceasefire. As Jim Molyneaux put it, “It was significant”, he said, “when the IRA started to murder pensioners, children, mothers and fathers and so it was bound to be significant when they stopped. The most significant part of all has been the victory of ordinary people over the terrorists”, and how right Jim Molyneaux was.

    And yesterday, yesterday the loyalist paramilitaries announced that they too were stopping violence. Another victory for ordinary people, brave people, in Northern Ireland. Today, for the first time in a quarter of a century, the people of Ulster have woken up to peace. Our determination must be to make that peace permanent. To fasten down what is unfolding needs clear reasoning and cold calculation. Many people will urge me to hurry. I understand their enthusiasm. I will not tarry one day longer than I judge is necessary. But I will take it in my own time. The responsibility for Northern Ireland is the responsibility of the British Government.

    I am used to being urged to hurry. I have had such advice daily since the Downing Street declaration. But if I had listened, we would not today where we are, with the guns stilled and the bombs stopped and Northern Ireland on its way to a better future. So other people can call for speed if they wish, but I must ask the hard questions and I must make the right judgements at the right time, and to the best of my ability, I will. Things are changing; the profile of street security has lessened on military advice, men and women are no longer searched when they enter hotels and large stores; but let me give this assurance: for as long as is necessary, as many policemen and troops as are necessary will stay on duty in Northern Ireland to protect all the people of Northern Ireland.

    We have made a beginning, but not yet an end. Every day that violence is absent brings more hope. Progress may not be easy, there will be setbacks, there may be disappointments – people who are suspicious, who block progress. All this probably lies ahead. But there is, I am sure, a way through. If you will something, you can make it happen, and the will for peace in Northern Ireland is very strong. So Paddy Mayhew and his team, who have done so well, will press ahead with the political talks with the constitutional parties. We intend to complete a framework document with the Irish Government.

    We hope to restore local accountability and local democracy to Northern Ireland; to seek an agreement, an agreement that is acceptable to the people of Northern Ireland, and we shall test their view in a referendum as a cast-iron safeguard of our intentions. I know the size of the task ahead. I’ve no illusions about its difficulty, or the past record of many of the people with whom we are dealing. But we cannot let history freeze us into inaction. There is a chance, a window for peace. We will enter it if we can do so with honour and with consent.

    In the words of the old testament, which is common to both traditions in Northern Ireland, “There is a time to love and a time to hate, a time of war and a time of peace.” The people of Northern Ireland are sick of war. It is for them that we must build a time of peace.

    Mr. President, it’s a cliche’ today that every leader must have “the vision thing”. We’re told he must map out, in dramatic form, new direction. I don’t disparage “the vision thing”, but alongside “the vision thing” I must tell you I remain rather attached to “the action thing”, to “the practical thing”, to the “how on earth do you deliver these promises thing”. By all means listen to a politician when he tells you what he plans, but ask him too “How will you do it?”. Take it from me, the devil, the very devil, can be in the detail.

    I don’t disparage the mapping of direction, or sometimes, new direction. I hope I’ve sketched out some today, but I must tell you, there is sometimes merit in the old direction. Change for the sake of change should never appeal to any Conservative. In a world sometimes of bewildering change, this party must stand for continuity and stability, for home and for health. And we must build this for the long term, for our children and for our grand-children. It is the young people out there, it is they who will make the world in which we grow old. They will make the decisions. They may decide in their time to strike out along new pathways, but it is for us in our time to build for them a stronger foundation so they may have that choice.

    And today my message to you is that Britain is growing stronger: we are beginning to see the fruit of all the things we’ve battled and striven for throughout these difficult last four years. You know, running the country isn’t like walking down the road. You have to hold fast to your core beliefs, whatever the short-term pressures may be; see the right things through to their finish, whatever the risks may be. To govern is to be engaged in a hundred themes, a thousand roots, and the everyday visions, sometimes conflicting, of literally millions upon millions of people. No windy rhetoric, no facile phrases, no pious cliche’, no shallow simplification, no mock-honest, mock-familiar adman speak, can conceal or should be permitted to conceal the infinite complexity of government.

    Take care nobody tries to conceal that from you. Take care not to confuse travesty with truth. Never assume that because an idea is easily communicated that it must be right. Take care not to confuse oratory with practical concern. Look for the achievements of government not always in bold plans or crude conflicts, but sometimes in mended fences too, and sometimes in the accretion of small steps whose pattern takes time to become clear.

    In this difficult world, our interests are daily at stake. The time is ripe for grown-up politics. The glib phrases, the soundbites, the ritual conflicts, all these may be the daily stuff of life for the upper 1,000 in politics, but to fifty million other people in this country they are utterly irrelevant and my interests must be with them.

    It is said that actions speak louder than words. I hope so, for in the end, and when it comes to a choice I shall bend my energies always to work, not talk. My trade has never been in adjectives; I shall be patient. I shall be realistic. I shall ask for patience and realism in others, and I promise you this: I shall put my trust in results. Thank you.

  • Mr Major’s Doorstep Interview on Northern Ireland – 13 October 1994

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s doorstep interview on Northern Ireland, held on 13th October 1994.


    PRIME MINISTER:

    Let me just say a word about the events of the last few hours. It is clearly extremely good news that we have the statement that we have all seen this morning from the paramilitaries. I am delighted about that, another very important part of the jigsaw has fallen into place.
    What we need to do is to absorb what has happened, consider it and them decide how we move forward. We will do that in our own time and our own way but I am delighted at the news we have heard this morning. Now I will take just a couple of questions.

    QUESTION:

    [Prime Minister, is it now a working assumption that the IRA ceasefire is permanent?]

    PRIME MINISTER:

    When I am ready to make that assumption, I will make it publicly.

    QUESTION:

    [Prime Minister, may I ask you, what is the next step you hope for?]

    PRIME MINISTER:

    Well, firstly, we must analyse precisely what is being said this morning, precisely what it may mean. Just a few months ago, people were saying we would make no progress at all, they said the Downing Street Declaration wouldn’t work. We have taken it cautiously, we have taken it slowly. I believe one of the reasons that we have made the progress that we are now beginning to see is precisely for that reason. So we don’t intend to be pushed. Today is unalloyed, good news. I don’t detract from it in any way but we must analyse it, consider it and then carefully decide with clear realism what is the best way to move forward. That is what we propose to do. As soon as we have down that, we will make it perfectly clear what we have in mind.

    QUESTION:

    [Prime Minister, the IRA joined the process through Sinn Fein. It is much harder to see how the Loyalist gunmen get to the talking process?]

    PRIME MINISTER:

    Well, you raised perfectly one of the points that’s worthy of consideration before you comment on it, that is exactly right. Sinn Fein operate as a political party getting 10% of the vote in the north of Ireland, and claim that they will be able to speak for the IRA. That is not the case with the Loyalist paramilitaries. That’s one of the matters that we have to discuss.

    QUESTION:

    [Will you be speaking to the Taoiseach?]

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I may well speak to the Taoiseach – it is by no means certain I will. We speak quite regularly. Whether we speak later today I am not quite sure.

    QUESTION:

    [Despite caution Prime Minister, overall a very good day?]

    PRIME MINISTER:

    Oh, beyond any doubt at all it is extremely good news. And a few months ago, very few people would have imagined that we would have been talking in a situation in which there is an IRA ceasefire and a Loyalist paramilitary ceasefire, with a genuine hope that we may be able, after examining these matters, to move forward. We couldn’t have imagined it some time ago.

    QUESTION:

    [Unclear, but regarding the IRA qualification requirements which had been missed on August 31st 1994]

    PRIME MINISTER:

    We still have to reach the situation where we are satisfied it’s permanent. When we have reached that situation I will make a judgement upon those matters. But I repeat the point I made a moment ago, if we snatch at these things, it is going to slip away. We need to retain the confidence and trust of all the people in Northern Ireland and they expect us to be cautious. They have had 25 years of misery with bombings and killings in Northern Ireland. I think it is right to take this at a measured pace and I propose to continue doing so. Thank you all very much indeed.

  • Mr Major’s Joint Press Conference with President Yeltsin – 25 September 1994

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s joint press conference with President Yeltsin, held at Brize Norton on Sunday 25th September 1994.


    PRIME MINISTER:

    Let me start first and then I will invite President Yeltsin to say a few words but we are running a little late; I am afraid we will be as speedy as we possibly can be.

    We have had this weekend a meeting of an entirely different kind; it is, to be frank, one of a kind that hasn’t happened before and I suppose wouldn’t have been possible before for many years. I think Boris Yeltsin put his finger on it yesterday when he said that the Queen’s state visit to Russia would be an historic event without precedent. That is entirely true, it would have been unthinkable some years ago and so in its own way would the weekend that we have just spent together at Chequers.

    We haven’t produced a communique as I indicated yesterday when we spoke. We have not talked across a table from prepared positions and prepared notes but we have covered a very great deal of ground sitting together, over walks and over meals. We have looked at the future shape of Europe both in the medium term and the long term. The old divisions have gone for good but Europe is still in In May next year, we will celebrate half a century of peace in Europe. I have invited the Russian Government to take part in the commemorative events we are holding in Britain and President Yeltsin has invited the British Government to the important commemorations that he will be organising a few days later in Russia. We have agreed that both governments will be represented at a very high level on each occasion and we will agree and set out the details at a later time.

    We spent some time discussing Bosnia at length, beginning on our walk yesterday afternoon and continuing when the Foreign Ministers joined us later today. We are again entering a very difficult period over Bosnia; it was very fortunate that President Yeltsin and I, Douglas Hurd and Andre Kozyrev have had the opportunity of discussing it this weekend and I say that because it is particularly important for Europe, Russia and the United States to stay closely together at this time. We wish to preserve the gains that have been made over the past few months and the achievements of the United Nations Protection Forces; the Contact Group can play a very important part in this; President Milosevic should be encouraged to ensure that Bosnian Serbs don’t receive support from the former Yugoslavia; and everything possible should he done to keep the diplomatic process moving forward to induce the parties to come to a peaceful settlement.

    We spoke about arms control questions, including implementation of the Treaty on Conventional Forces in Europe where there are still some very complicated issues to be resolved and about weapons proliferation. Nuclear non-proliferation is vitally important to both of us and we shall continue to give it a very high priority in our joint efforts.

    The President briefed me on Russia’s relations with the neighbouring countries and approach to the Commonwealth of Independent States. He will be visiting Kiev next month and we both want to support President Kuchma and the new Ukrainian Government in introducing the much-needed programme of economic reform.

    President Yeltsin described the encouraging developments in Russia over the course of this year and he may wish to say more about that. He described, with justification, a more stable political atmosphere and a significant improvement in the economic situation; inflation much lower than before, production growing in some sectors and privatisation having moved with a quite remarkable speed over the past twelve months or so; economic and political reform are now firmly embedded and I assured the President of our continuing support.

    We needed to spend very little time indeed on the direct bilateral relationship between Russia and the United Kingdom.

    On foreign policy questions, there are no significant disagreements.

    We both wish to see trade and investment increased and we discussed some ways in which we might achieve this. The President of the Board of Trade, Michael Heseltine, will be looking at these subjects in greater detail at a meeting with Deputy Prime Minister Cherkin which takes place tomorrow.

    This was the fourth meeting that President Yeltsin and I had had this year and his fourth visit to the United Kingdom. Each of those visits have been different and this one had a very special character; it was useful and it was enjoyable; it was both of these things in equal parts and I believe it justly reflected the very friendly relations that exist at the moment between the United Kingdom and Russia so I was delighted to have the President and Mrs. Yeltsina as our guests this weekend and I hope at some stage in the future we will encourage them to return again for a similar exercise.

    PRESIDENT YELTSIN:

    Thank you very much indeed, ladies and gentlemen. In view of the fact that we have very little time because I have to now fly out to New York to the session of the United Nations and have to make a speech at the General Assembly of the United Nations I will not speak in detail in my introductory remarks, I will not touch on all the various aspects of our talks.

    I would very much like to thank both Mr. and Mrs. Major for their warm hospitality, for all the warm conditions, the organisation and for the way in which they organised our work and our time which guaranteed the fact that we could combine both great pleasure – a wonderful walk – and a very very full working programme of talks.

    We discussed in effect absolutely all the aspects of the questions, both internal questions and bilateral relations and various international questions and that for me was extremely useful just before my visit to the United States of America especially in view of the fact that I will be speaking at the General Assembly of the United Nations.

    This was a working meeting which took place at the invitation of Norma and John Major and I have to say that the character of our meeting was precisely that character which enabled us to have an extremely warm and absolutely frank and sincere exchange of views. I don’t think that even as little as two, three, four – let alone five – years ago there would have been the possibility for such a meeting and I have to underline the fact that the President of Russia has been to Chequers for the first time. I would very much like to thank you very warmly and I will now finish my remarks and I am ready to answer your questions.

     

    QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

    QUESTION (BBC WORLD SERVICE):

    Prime Minister, I would like to put a question to you and a short question at the end to President Yeltsin.

    You mentioned that you discussed the question of Russia and its relations with the other CIS countries and last week the Russian intelligence service produced a report on this which suggested that Russia is not entirely happy with the way we in the West look at Russia’s relations with the CIS. Could you say a bit more about that and could President Yeltsin say if there is an actual date for his visit to Kiev next month?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    We spent some time discussing the relationship with the CIS and clearly it is evolving. We see very considerable progress that has been made during the last 15/18 months in terms of the relationship within the Commonwealth. It is bound in a transitional phase to throw up the occasional difficulty, I think that is absolutely inevitable, but I think the way in which President Yeltsin has approached those difficulties, not least of course with Ukraine, has been with a great deal of restraint and a great deal of political courage at home so I found it a very useful discussion and I believe that the President would have done so as well. As to Kiev, I will invite the President to answer.

    PRESIDENT YELTSIN:

    I would like to say not only a few words about the visit to Kiev but the work which we have been conducting in our relations with the CIS particularly in what relates to peacekeeping operations and we tried to douse the flames of inter-ethnic conflicts. We have doused those flames in Moldova, in Ofisha, in the Caucasus and our armed units are now effecting a peacekeeping operation in Apashia [phon] and Georgia and we are tackling the problem of the return of Georgian refugees to Apashia but we are somewhat surprised that there is no participation on the part of Western countries in those operations.

    With regard to Kiev, the exact date has not been fixed but we are preparing a full-scale political agreement between Russia and the Ukraine and this will relieve the existing tension in very many aspects. I have spoken to President Kuchma; we have come to an agreement that on the 50th anniversary of the liberation of the Ukraine Prime Minister Chernomyrdin will be going to Ukraine and I will pay an official visit in the middle of November.

    QUESTION (BBC WORLD SERVICE/UKRAINIAN SERVICE):

    [In Russian, not translated]

    PRESIDENT YELTSIN:

    The difficulty is simply my very full timetable.

    QUESTION:

    [In Russian, not translated]

    PRESIDENT YELTSIN:

    I have already said that the very form of our meeting at Chequers has brought us so close together that I consider that we have never had such excellent relations as those which exist between Great Britain and Russia. we tackled about two-and-a-half dozen questions and in more than the majority of those questions we agreed, even concerning international questions, and that is a very rare fact and I hope we continue in exactly the same way.

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I can’t conceive that a few years ago people would have imagined the nature and content of the discussions that we have been able to have this weekend; it is quite unexpected and people would not have imagined that this could have happened just a few years ago.

    QUESTION (MIDDLE EAST BROADCASTING CENTRE):

    Mainly for Mr. Major and then for Mr. Yeltsin.

    You said, Prime Minister, earlier, that it is very important to solve the problem of Bosnia-Herzegovina for you, Russia and the United States and earlier this week the Prime Minister of Bosnia-Herzegovina said that to solve the problem of Bosnia-Herzegovina we need the intervention of the United States. Is it important that America intervene in this and was this summit this weekend the preparation of an agenda to talk about Bosnia-Herzegovina in the States for Mr. Yeltsin?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    We have set out a political way forward and we think that is the way forward. I am not sure by “intervention” whether you meant diplomatically or some other way but we have set out a process. The Contact Group is in very close discussion continually and that of course involves the United States, Russia, ourselves and others.

    The point about Bosnia at the moment is that a great deal has been achieved over the last few months. Whereas a much larger part of Bosnia was in conflict some time ago, a great deal of that has diminished but it is fragile. The position in Sarajevo isn’t as good as it was a few weeks ago, the present position is both fragile and uncertain. The Contact Group recommendations – the peace plan – have not yet met favour with the Serbs.

    What we need to do is to continue to press those points. I don’t think it would be productive to go into the details of the discussions that we had and I don’t propose to do so except to say that the greater the extent to which we are able to work together, the greater likelihood there is that we will be able to produce a peaceful settlement that will stick in Bosnia and that is what we seek to do.

    QUESTION:

    What is the importance that you ascribe to the visit of Her Majesty The Queen to Russia?

    PRESIDENT YELTSIN:

    I have already said I consider this visit an absolutely historic and unique visit because such a visit of Her Majesty The Queen Elizabeth to Russia means most importantly that Russia has firmly and irrevocably entered on to a democratic way. That is what is so important, that is the meaning of that visit. We have done everything to ensure that that visit should be absolutely top class.

    QUESTION:

    Prime Minister, the President will be joining in the United States other luminaries including Gerry Adams and of course our own Michael Mates. Can I ask you what you would answer to those who would suggest that the semi-official visit by Michael Mates to the United States is the Government pressing the PR panic button?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think that is ludicrous frankly that proposition. We have made a great deal of progress on Northern Ireland, we want to see that progress continued. The Ulster Unionists have just visited North America. We need a balanced picture to be placed there and a balanced picture, I hope, is going to be set out before people.

    QUESTION (Russian newspaper “Today”):

    Mr. President, in the course of your talks with the Prime Minister, did you touch on the question of future investments in the Russian economy and does the Prime Minister need more guarantees from the Russian powers?

    PRESIDENT YELTSIN:

    The agreements that we reached and signed are being implemented and I have expressed my warmest thanks to John Major but we have also agreed to continue to enlarge the scope of the financing of those general programmes which we are implementing particularly in the cleaning up and the elimination of chemical and nuclear weapons.

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I will add a word about investments. We did spend some time discussing that. We discussed it at length in February, we discussed it again on this occasion, it will be discussed further by Deputy Prime Minister Cherkin who is here today and Michael Heseltine tomorrow so there is a great deal of continuing work.

  • Mr Major’s Joint Arrival Statement with President Yeltsin – 24 September 1994

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s joint arrival statement with President Yeltsin at Brize Norton on Saturday 24th September 1994.


    PRIME MINISTER:

    I would like to welcome President Yeltsin and Mrs. Yeltsina to the United Kingdom this morning. It is an informal visit and one that Norma and I have been much looking forward to.

    The genesis of this weekend is a discussion that the President and I had in Moscow last February when I invited him to join us. We intend it to be an informal occasion; we will have the opportunity to discuss a range of both long-term and short-term issues but we also intend to-spend some time enjoying ourselves. I don’t necessarily therefore expect that we will be issuing a communique at the end – these are discussions that are geared to the long-term – so let me simply say this morning we are delighted to see President Yeltsin and Mrs. Yeltsina with us and they are very welcome guests indeed in the United Kingdom.

    PRESIDENT YELTSIN:

    I would like to thank Prime Minister John Major and Mrs. Major for the invitation that has been made quite some time ago and of course this is not my first visit here to Britain. I am extremely happy to be here and I certainly remember our previous meetings with the Prime Minister, meetings that gave wonderful results. Now the time has come to compare notes. We have signed quite a number of agreements, we have held talks, we have signed all sorts of documents, now we need this opportunity in order to compare our opinions of whether we are going in the right direction. In my opinion, the state of Russian/British relations is good, the relationship is developing as we envisaged.
    As far as international problems are concerned, frankly speaking, I do not recall a single serious issue where our opinions and approaches do not concur but in fact we do have lots of themes to raise during these one-and-a-half days.

    I would like to thank the Prime Minister but in my closing remarks I would also like to point out that we are anxiously awaiting the visit of Her Majesty The Queen to Russia; this is going to be a first historic visit and is going to take place from the 17th to the 20th of October.

    I would like to pass on my best regards and my best wishes to all those living in Britain and thank you very very much for your hospitality.

    PRIME MINISTER:

    Thank you very much. We will have something to say when the President leaves tomorrow lunchtime.

  • Mr Major’s Interview in Pretoria – 22 September 1994

    Below is Mr Major’s interview in Pretoria, held on Thursday 22nd September 1994.


    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked what his memories of his South Africa visit would be]

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think the atmosphere, the atmosphere of hope and optimism, there wasn’t any some time ago, there is now. That is one great abiding memory. I think the other is the way in which people are working together to create a new South Africa and perhaps above all, on a more personal level, the attitude of the youngsters, their sheer delight at the sporting equipment that was available, the wonderful choir that we saw at one of the schools and the way in which they are beginning to see their future in a more positive light.

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked what he had achieved in practical terms]

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think we have achieved quite a lot in practical terms. The business relationship has undoubtedly been thickened and improved and so has the political relationship. We have been able to offer a whole series of special assistance. This morning, for example, I visited the British military team who are assisting in the integration of the South African Defence Force; I was able to promise this morning that that team would stay there for so long as the South Africans wished them to, previously they were there for a limited period.

    There has been a great deal of assistance that we have been able to offer to the townships. I won’t run through it all but a great deal of assistance on each day.

  • Mr Major’s Press Conference in Pretoria – 22 September 1994

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s press conference in Pretoria, held on 22nd September 1994.


    PRIME MINISTER:

    Let me say something about the visit to South Africa over the last few days. I am now very near the end of my visit. I think it has been a remarkable visit and I have to say on a personal level that it has moved me like few other visits I have made in the past. I do not think that anyone, with any sense of history at all, could fail to be aware that this is a quite extraordinary moment in South Africa’s history. And in the last few days what we have seen is a country that is crossing from a very troubled past into a future that I believe has a substantial amount of hope and opportunity.

    I have been extraordinarily impressed by the determination from President Mandela, Deputy President Mbeki, Deputy President De Klerk, and other senior officials, to make sure that those hopes and those opportunities for South Africans are met. They are under no illusions about the size and scale of the task, they know there will be set-backs as well as advances, but they are determined to proceed and I hope and I believe they will succeed.

    My purpose in coming was to renew and refresh an old friendship, but it was also to extend cooperation to South Africa, and to ordinary South Africans. The visit has been rich in symbolism, frankly it could scarcely have been otherwise given the intertwine nature of Britain’s long relationship with South Africa. But I think it has also established a practical framework for cooperation, and it has also set in train important programmes of partnership across a wide range of activities.

    I think that the balance sheet of this visit has been quite extraordinarily positive, and perhaps I might remind you of just some of its main features.

    President Mandela and I signed four important agreements. Firstly an agreement on promoting and protecting investment. Investment from overseas self-evidently is going to be one of the keys to South Africa’s future prosperity, Britain is already the largest investor in South Africa and I want to encourage British businessmen to move forward from that base, to come to South Africa, to increase the investment they have got here, or to make an initial investment if they have not previously been in this country. And everything that I have heard from the businessmen who are with me has been optimistic about their view of the future for South Africa and the business prospects of those who invest in South Africa. I find that enormously encouraging because investment flows will dwarf any other government to government assistance, however generous it might be, in improving the quality of life and the prospects for people in South Africa. What the agreement I signed has done is to provide would-be investors in both our countries with the security of a proper regulatory framework for their investments.

    Next we signed an agreement on development cooperation. Together with the South African government, we have identified those areas where 550 million Rands worth of aid, which we will commit over the next three years, can most usefully be spent. We will work with the South African government in education, in health, in agriculture, in local government, and in helping South Africans set up and run small businesses. Lynda Chalker, who has been with me throughout this visit, and has played such a role in it, will provide any further details that any of you may wish to have.

    I am delighted also that British business will be playing its own role. Under the Soweto Skills Initiative, 30 British firms, so far, have agreed to invite businessmen from Soweto for training in Britain, and at the end of that training they will bring back the experience and the skills they have gathered to South Africa to help build its new future.

    We signed also an agreement on Cooperation in Science, Technology and Engineering. As of course you will know, I have been accompanied on this visit by Sir Michael Atyer, the President of the Royal Society, and by Professor Sir William Stewart, my Chief Scientific Adviser. They have reached agreement on this trip with their opposite numbers on how to carry forward this pooling of scientific knowledge in appropriate areas. The British Cabinet Minister responsible for science, David Hunt, will follow up with a visit to South Africa in the very near future.

    Finally, we have signed an agreement which provides a framework for the assistance that we are giving in integrating the South African Armed Forces. I have only this morning visited the British Military Advisory and Training scheme at Walmanstall, and I have to say to you that I was deeply impressed by the remarkable progress that they are making. Britain has a very long history of achievement in assisting the Armed Forces of Namibia, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, and many other countries, in integrating a comprehensive defence force, and I am delighted that the South African Government chose to invite the British Army to undertake this particular responsibility in South Africa. I agreed this morning that if the South African Government wished the BMAT team to stay on beyond the original date then they will do so for as long as they are needed and can usefully assist in South Africa.

    Yesterday, as many of you I think will know, I opened the Round Table Business Seminar, conducted by the CBI and the South African Chamber of Business. On our side that was attended by a team of senior businessmen, under the leadership of Howard Davies, the Director General of the CBI. I attended only the beginning but I am told by the businessmen that it was a very successful event and a number of the senior businessmen have identified new opportunities with South African partners. When the businessmen rejoin me on the aircraft this evening we will debrief and round up on the results of their meetings with their South African partners, I do not yet have them all but I know that it has been, from their point of view, a successful occasion, and I am very keen to ensure that the momentum given by trade to this visit should be sustained and built on, not just in the short term but in the long term.

    The CBI and the Chamber of Business have themselves decided to draw up an agreement which, for the first time, will put their cooperation on a permanent footing. All this will give a tremendous impetus to our “Opportunity South Africa” campaign which will bring a number of high powered trade missions to South Africa over the next 12 months.

    In my speech the other day to the South African Parliament, I explained why I thought that sport should play a key role in the assistance that we wish to give to the townships in South Africa. Yesterday, unless I very much missed my mark, many of you here this morning were as moved as I was by the boundless enthusiasm of those youngsters at Alexandra.

    The coaching sessions you saw were but a part of the sports initiative for the townships. Overnight I can report to you two further important developments. As some of you may know, in Cape Town Sir Colin Cowdrey, who is here with me this morning, and I met leading figures from the Western Province Cricket Association. Sir Colin is President-elect of the Lords Taverners who are engaged in pioneering work to develop cricket in the townships. As a result of our Cape Town meeting, the Lords Taverners have decided to donate in excess of 100,000 Rand to provide a Lords Taverners mini-bus to help the young township cricketers of the Western Cape. I am extremely grateful to Colin, and also to Brian Bullock, the Chairman of the Lords Taverners, who is also with us here this morning, for their generosity. It was typical of the way in which the Taverners deal with matters of this sort, and the speed with which they reacted is something for which I am extremely grateful and I am delighted to see them both here this morning.

    Secondly, at dinner last night here on this lawn, again I think attended by a number of the people present here this morning, a most enjoyable occasion, I mentioned at my table to a group of distinguished businessmen, that what was needed at Alexandra Park was a Club House on the cricket pitch, not a novel idea of mine but one that was mentioned to me by Ali Baka [phon] during the course of the day. “What we need”, he said, “is that sort of building on the cricket pitch”. Well, with an instinctive generosity, and I assure you, little arm twisting on my part, five of the businessmen present agreed to pledge 55,000 Rand each to the cost of a pavilion at Alexandra Park. Those companies are: Anglo-American, Anglo-Vaal, Sasol, Glaxo and Racall, and I am extremely grateful also to them for their generosity and we will put those arrangements for the construction of that pavilion in hand as speedily as possible.

    In my speech to parliament I announced that Her Majesty The Queen would be delighted to accept President Mandela’s invitation to visit South Africa in the spring of next year. I can tell you this morning that Princess Anne, the Princess Royal, will also pay an official visit to South Africa in a few weeks time, in November.

    This visit has I think set relations between Britain and South Africa on a course which will improve, increase and develop our cooperation right across the board. The way is now open, not only for further government to government contacts, important though those are, but for businessmen and people in all walks of life to extend and to thicken the many bonds that tie our two countries.

    Let me, before I take your questions, end on a personal note. The enduring memory that I will take back from this visit is of the prospects for South Africa and for the young South Africans that we have seen on so many occasions over the last few days. Ultimately it will be up to South Africa and South Africans to make those prospects a reality. I have come here not only with the promise, but with the practical demonstration that Britain will help South Africa give its people the future that I believe they deserve.

    It has been a most enjoyable visit and I shall leave here with a great deal of regret and look forward to returning at, I hope, not too long a distance in time.

    QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

    QUESTION (Simon Walters):

    What do you say to some people back in Britain who might say why don’t we spend the money that we are spending in South Africa on trade and aid and the development of sporting links in poorer parts of Britain where they need these things? How would you relate this visit to people back home?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think the first thing I would say to the British nation, who are a pretty open-hearted and generous nation, is: “Come and see for yourself what that will mean to the townships through the expenditure of those resources!” and from what I know of the open-heartedness of the British, I doubt that very many people would close their hearts to the self-evident need that you can find out here.

    As far as assistance in the United Kingdom is concerned, you will know the amount of trade assistance that exists and I needn’t detail it to you.

    As far as sport is concerned, starting within a very few months as a result of the legislation to establish a national lottery, within two or three years British sport will have an almost guaranteed sum of around £300 million sterling each and every year to develop sport in the United Kingdom and if you can put that in context, if you just think back over the last decade and imagine what the expenditure of £3 billion sterling would have done to British sport, I think you begin to see the tremendous opportunities that open up so I don’t believe anyone will begrudge the assistance we have been able to offer.

    QUESTION:

    You spoke yesterday about maintaining those trade barriers. Do you believe South Africa should scrap the [indistinct] rand?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I had in mind the trade barriers around the world. When we sought to improve the access for South African products for example to the European Union, we made some progress under the generalised system of preferences but not enough – it was a move forward but not sufficient.

    The relevant point is that closed trade barriers whether here or elsewhere – it is not for me to look at individual matters, the South African Government will themselves look at it over a period of time and they must take their time and do it thoroughly – but as a general principle, if one closes trade barriers both sides lose. Protection doesn’t work, protection simply inspires counter-protection, diminishes the flow of trade and diminishes the prospects for employment, growth, tax yields and prosperity for people and that is a trend that is increasingly recognised.
    I am keen to see the European market fully open to South Africa; it is opening – there is more to be done.

    QUESTION (Kevin Brown, Financial Times):

    One of the themes of your visit here has been economic liberalisation. In the light of the talks that you have had and the RDP White Paper which has been issued this morning, do you think you have been instrumental in persuading the South African Government to speed up their programme of economic reform?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think they have in mind to pursue a programme of economic reform. I would not be so impertinent as to suggest that I had been instrumental in speeding it up.

    What I have been clear about in the discussions is that the South African Government are well aware of the need to create the right climate for the private sector and for private enterprise; they see no ideological barrier to creating that. They have to look at economic reality and the speed and pace at which they can move but the direction of their movement is not only clear from the discussions, I think it is clear from some of the agreements I signed with President Mandela and I think that there is a degree of confidence that business can have over the direction in which policy is moving.

    QUESTION (Paul Reynolds):

    Did you find the remarks of Lady Thatcher on investment in South Africa unhelpful in that she did say that investment was not in fact coming in at the moment which appeared to conflict with your repeatedly optimistic views?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I wasn’t sure that what was said to me yesterday about Lady Thatcher’s remarks was in context and for this reason: over a long period of time she has encouraged British firms to maintain their investment in South Africa. Right through recent years and throughout the period that she was Prime Minister she encouraged and sanctioned a great deal of direct assistance into the townships in South Africa. That she wishes South Africa well and has done continually I don’t believe there is a shred of doubt. I think the statement she issued to correct some misunderstanding last night answers the point thoroughly.

    QUESTION:

    [Indistinct] South Africa while there are still unresolved [indistinct] deeds of the South African arms industry?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think the circumstances have changed if you look at what has happened in South Africa. Take for example in terms of the changed atmosphere where I was this morning to illustrate the point I am making. I was at the military training centre this morning.

    What is actually happening is the incorporation into the South African Defence Force of people who were sworn enemies of the South African Defence Force. That is an astonishing sea change. You only had to have sat with me in the dining room where Harold Macmillan made his famous “Wind of Change” speech and see politicians who had been total opponents a few years ago seated at the same table talking to realise the remarkable changes there have been in South Africa.

    I think it is right to take the approach that has been taken and support it even in the area you suggest.

    QUESTION:

    [Indistinct] South Africans who breach their laws stand trial. There is still an unresolved court case in Britain – South Africans jumped bail in the 1980s of £400,000 and came here. Britain seems unconcerned about this.

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I have indicated I have got a good deal of faith in the prospects of South Africa and in the South African Government. I can’t answer for other governments, I can only answer for mine.

    QUESTION:

    You talked about a visit rich in symbolism and following up what you said there about reconciliation among groups that once were opposed, do you see any symbolic parallels with what has happened here and what you are trying to achieve in Northern Ireland?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    Not really, no. I can see why some people may think there is. think the circumstances are different but what is not different is that while tremendous progress – remarkable progress – has been made here, we are making progress now in Northern Ireland as well and we must continue to do so but I don’t think the underlying basis of the disagreement is remotely similar so I don’t see necessary parallels. The parallel I do see is that in both South Africa and in Northern Ireland welcome progress is now being made.

    QUESTION (Colin Brown, The Independent):

    Following on that point, having had negotiations with the leader of the ANC who is now the President, would you hope at one stage to have negotiations with Gerry Adams?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    That is not imminent, is it? What we are waiting to hear at the moment is confirmation that what they are seeking to intimate, namely that they have given up violence for good, is really their position. I am waiting for them to make that clear. If it is their position, then I hope they will make it clear. As I have said before, I am not hung up on them using any particular set of words to do so.

    I just want it to be unambiguously clear so there is confidence amongst the people who in due course will need to sit down and talk with Sinn Fein that they are not going suddenly to decide to pick up arms and renew violence again. They can do it how they wish in the words they wish but I think those people who will have to negotiate with them and the people who live in Northern Ireland will want to have that assurance. I think they are moving towards it and I am very pleased about the fact that they are moving towards it.

    In due course, once they have cleared that hurdle, there will be a short period of up to three months and at that stage at official level we will engage in discussions with Sinn Fein about how we can bring them into the political talks proper; they will then sit around the table at the political talks proper and whether Mr. Adams represents Sinn Fein is a matter for Sinn Fein but he may well be there.

    QUESTION:

    Prime Minister, do you think your visit here has improved the chances of Jarrow getting the order for the corvettes?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    That is a matter for the South African Government, I can’t comment on that. I can only say it is a very fine product.

    QUESTION:

    Prime Minister, you have been here and preached your distinctive economic message. You have obviously had a good response from the business community but I wonder, knowing your experience of difficulties at home where unemployment, poverty and social disparities are far less acute than they are here and you have an enormous amount of political trouble at home and a lot of side effects from the consequences of your economic message, can people here be expected to be as patient in wanting the rewards of the good life as you seem to expect them to be with the message you are advocating?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think what the South African Government wish to achieve is something that is permanent and something that is going to last. I think you are quite right that expectations are very high and some movement will need to be made towards those expectations. That is very well understood by the South African Government and it is the principal reason of course why it is so necessary to encourage the flow of inward investment because if you look at what people would most wish to see in South Africa, I believe apart from the maintenance of the peaceful climate that exists, what they would most wish to see is a growth of jobs as speedily as possible. A growth of jobs requires investment; it doesn’t matter to the person who is unemployed whether that investment comes domestically or whether it comes from one of the substantial number of overseas companies who are investing in this country, what is needed is the money, the investment, to create the enterprises, to create the jobs, to create the security for South Africans.

    I said earlier – and you intimated that you had that point in mind in your question – that there were going to be many difficult decisions to be taken in the future, there were going to be setbacks as well as advances. What I think is appropriate in the atmosphere that exists is that that process of advance can be visibly seen to be continuing. I think if that is the ease then the South African Government although of course they will face difficulties will have every chance of carrying their programme successfully through.

    QUESTION:

    You just mentioned the peaceful climate in South Africa. How concerned are you about the potential for political instability in the Zulu camp?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    It is an area of concern. What is remarkable when one steps back of course is that the area of concern is now only there and I think that is a problem that can be dealt with. One has seen the changes. It is not all that very many months ago that you might have been asking me whether the Zulus would take part in the elections and yet with the right political leadership they did and now Chief Buthelezi has a very significant role in the Government as the minister responsible for home affairs. Of course these points will arise from time to time, this one in Kwazulu [phon] and conceivably others elsewhere, but if the good sense prevails that has prevailed in remarkable fashion over recent months, then I don’t think it will be a permanent problem.

    QUESTION (German Press Agency):

    Could you expand on your preventive diplomacy that you outlined in your speech to Parliament and can you tell us what the response of the South African Government was to this? I am sorry if you answered this before but I was not present.

    PRIME MINISTER:

    No, I haven’t answered it before and I am afraid I am not in detail going to answer it right now for this reason: the British Ambassador at the United Nations may be conducting further discussions about this today and the Foreign Secretary, Douglas Hurd, will set out in much greater detail what we propose when he speaks to the United Nations early next week.

    I trailed the fact that we are actually looking at this initiative. I think it is an important initiative. In principle, it has been warmly welcomed by the South African Government but I would prefer not to get into the details of it until we make a full announcement.

    QUESTION:

    Prime Minister, do you feel that a high profile visit like this to South Africa will help you domestically with your opinion poll ratings when you get back home which are still running at a record low?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I have no idea. Time will tell but that wasn’t the purpose of the visit. I seem to remember having that question from Paul Wilenius just before the last election! Remind me of the result of the last election, Paul!

    QUESTION (Jeremy Thompson, Sky News):

    I will save you and bring you back to Africa, Prime Minister! You talked in the Parliament about your desire to help in South Africa and particularly in trying to turn the tide in Africa itself. Are you really optimistic that things can change for the better in this Continent?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think they most certainly can. If you look at what the position was a few years ago, the number of wars that existed south of the Sahara most of which with the exception of Angola have now been completed, if you look at what has happened in South Africa which few people would have predicted just a few years ago, you can see what advances have been made.

    What I think is not a pipe dream but more of a probability is that the South African example will have an impact northwards in the African Continent. South Africa is a potential giant in the African Continent not only economically but politically and diplomatically over years and I think its example will spread elsewhere.

    I am not predicting that all the problems are going to go away tomorrow, that would clearly be absurd. What I am saying is that I think that with the example of South Africa, with the example of what has actually happened in the last five years – we all have a great tendency to look at today’s problems and forget what yesterday’s problems were that have been solved – I believe that there is every prospect that we can make quite remarkable advances in the Continent of Africa – I speak particularly of sub-Saharan Africa – over the last years of this century and the early years of the next and profoundly hope that that will be the case.

  • Mr Major’s Doorstep Interview in Johannesburg – 21 September 1994

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s interview in Johannesburg, held on Wednesday 21st September 1994.


    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked about his role in the progress made in South Africa]

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think if you had been with me today, going out into the townships, you could have seen some of the role we have played, because throughout this period in the townships we have been producing practical measures to help, not so much interested in political gestures, but practical measures to help with education, to help with sport, to help with community facilities, to help with medical facilities, and we have not just started doing that now, that has been done for very many years throughout the last decade and for far longer. So the role we have always seen ourselves playing is in helping to prepare South Africa for the post-apartheid period, now that has arrived and I think we can build on that and work with the South African government to produce the better future that everybody here would like to see.

    Our concern always has been to get South Africa to a position where the opportunities that her people deserve, all the people watching this programme deserve, they will actually be able to have those opportunities. Now we are through the difficult period. The time has come when those opportunities can actually be provided. A good deal of assistance can come from government to government, and I have announced a range of areas where we can help. In addition to that of course, what is it I suppose that most of the people watching this programme would like to see for South Africa? They would like to see economic prosperity for South Africa, jobs for people in South Africa, opportunities for people in South Africa, they would like all the young people to grow up in a stable secure South Africa offering opportunities for all of them.

    Now that means investment, it means business growth, it means the right sort of education. Those are the practical measures that we have been helping with and that we think Great Britain is best placed to help with in the future, and that is what I have been indicating on this visit.

  • Mr Major’s Speech to the South African Chamber of Business – 21 September 1994

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s speech to the South African Chamber of Business in Johannesburg, held on Wednesday 21st September 1994.


    PRIME MINISTER:

    Mr President, Mr Premier, Ladies and Gentlemen. It was very kind of you, over the last few minutes, to have thanked me so graciously for the very warm welcome my country was privileged to give to the South African cricket team this summer. They certainly were very welcome guests indeed, everyone was pleased to see them – the public, the sports community, the government, and of course Mr Devon Malcolm, who was especially pleased that they turned up. He asked me to send them his very best wishes and to say how much he looks forward to meeting them again.

    I have come this morning, Mr President, literally come hot-foot from the Alexandra Township. And I daresay many of you will not be over-surprised to hear that I spent much of the last two hours on a sports field. And if you may think that that is not normal every day behaviour for a Prime Minister on a working visit, let me say to you that I believe there is a real point to it If I am not very much mistaken, this morning I have been with some of the people who hold the key to this country’s future, youngsters with boundless energy, kids to whom life has done very few favours in the past, but with a great deal of hope, and from what I saw in the nets, no little guile and cunning.

    And the cricketers amongst you perhaps will not be too impressed to hear that I was in some trouble in the nets, it was a touch like Question Time in the House of Commons, the only difference being there my own side get to bowl at me as well, which I think generally is helpful. But if it is not breach of professional ethics, I might reveal that Colin Cowdrey and Alec Stewart saw a thing or two this morning, and so did Bobby Charlton and Judy Simpson. And if Rob Andrew looks just that touch sharper when he comes here next year to take the Rugby World Cup with him, it could just be the fact of the tutelage he had in tackling this morning from those township boys in Alexandra.

    These are the young men and women who are going to provide the entrepreneurs, the managers, the technology experts of the future, their future is South Africa’s future, and are they going to have the opportunities for educational advancement, are their hopes going to be turned from dreams today, into realities tomorrow? The answer must be ‘Yes’, the right answer and I believe the answer that will come about is ‘Yes’, and the future of South Africa will then be very bright indeed.

    These are very early days in South Africa’s new age. But shining through all my discussions yesterday, with President Mandela, with the Deputy Presidents and with other Ministers, shining through every one of those discussions was their determination that the Government of National Unity would succeed. They feel that the system that they have set up is working, they take justifiably, I believe, pride in its success thus far. They clearly want to keep the country on its present course and I formed the judgment that they will go to very great lengths indeed to ensure that under their leadership the new South Africa binds a stable basis for the years ahead. And not least, they understand very clearly how vital this is for business confidence, for growth, for jobs, for the tax yield to fund social improvements that comes out of economic success. And of course in this they must surely be right.

    To me, therefore, there could not be a better time to launch Britain’s new relationship with South Africa on its course. And also to encourage both our businessmen and those of South Africa.

    I had yesterday the signal honour of addressing your Parliament, the first British Prime Minister since Harold Macmillan to do so. And I spoke yesterday about the new beginning that you have made in South Africa, and I described my hopes for a new fellowship in Britain’s relationship with South Africa.

    So let me not reiterate those points specifically, but move on today and focus on a crucial part of that relationship – our business and commercial ties, for without doubt, economic renewal will be the key to South Africa’s future, and with it all is possible.

    Mr President, your Director General, Raymond Parsons, has been travelling the world on behalf of South African business. And I was very much struck by a phrase he used in the United States just a week or so ago. He said this: “From the denial of opportunity, to the creation of opportunity”. My central message to you today is that Britain is eager to share in the creation of that opportunity.

    Countless countries no doubt will give the same message, the difference is that we mean it and we propose to do something about it. I believe Britain has a head start on others because we begin with such a long history of shared endeavour and shared experience.

    Let me touch on some matters of importance. Despite the appalling problems of apartheid, the business and commercial links between Britain and South Africa, though less than they otherwise would have been, are very strong indeed. The annual value of two-way trade between us exceeds 15 billion Rand. Britain is South Africa’s second largest supplier, and I exclude invisible services when I use that particular statistic. We are also your second largest export market. Our exports to you have increased by over 23 percent this year, and yours are growing very rapidly to us as well.

    To underpin these efforts, I was able to tell your Parliament yesterday that over 1 billion sterling extra export credit cover is now available for British companies doing business here. South Africa is one of our Export Credit Guarantee Department’s top three markets worldwide for business, and I expect that cover will be taken up by British businesses in the months ahead.

    We have also very healthy two-way investment. You are significant investors in Britain, and Britain is by far the largest overseas investor in South Africa. Our investments here are approaching 10 billion sterling and touch nearly every single part of your national life. Over the last three years, 68 British companies have made new investments in South Africa, more we believe than any other country.

    But that is happening already, this the present. Let us turn to the future. We wish to extend these trade and investment links much further, and when I say that I speak not only for the British government, but for British business as well, as the high powered team of businessmen with me amply demonstrate.

    Britain is alive with interest in the new South Africa, alive with interest in the two-way opportunities that it offers. An ample testimony of this is the nature of the team of leading businessmen and financiers who have come with me on this visit, together with two of my Ministers, Tony Nelson, a senior Minister at the Treasury, and Lynda Chalker, the Minister for Africa and Overseas Development; and Howard Davies, the Director General of the CBI, is here to speak for British industry and then to report back to British industry as well. Over 50 other British businessmen have joined us here. Many of them came with Michael Heseltine on his memorable visit in July, and were keen to come back. I believe they will come back, and back, and back, and back again, for many years as our trade flows and investment flows increase.

    But if numbers are anything to go by, their interest and enthusiasm is clearly more than matched by businessmen here in South Africa. I know there are here at this lunch today businessmen from long established and highly respected South African countries, and there are also representatives of some of your newer companies too who are beginning to share in the South African enterprise. Your presence here today demonstrates, in concrete terms, the potential for growth in South Africa.

    My business team covers many of Britain’s finest industries, from heavy engineering and construction, to water services and health care. I deliberately brought a particularly strong group from our financial services sector since the City of London and South Africa have a long history of cooperation and mutual respect.

    Here today are Christopher Benson, Chairman of Sun Alliance; Timothy Barker, Chairman of Kleinwert Bensen; Michael Dobson, Chief Executive of Morgan Grenfell; Michael Marks, Chief Executive of Smith Newcourt; Brian Pearce, formerly of Barclays and now, among other things, Chairman of British Invisibles; and Lord Cairns, Chief Executive of Warburgs, who have announced this week that Warburgs will open an office here in Johannesburg.

    All of them, I know, are keen to add their expertise to that of South Africa’s own sophisticated financial services industry. And they are particularly well placed, well placed by experience, to advise on the opportunities for privatisation, having worked so closely with the British government on our own extensive privatisation programme.

    Our team will be sitting down this afternoon with many of you present, sitting down to explore the prospects for new business in both our countries. They will report back both to the British, and to the South African, governments and we will then seek to act on their recommendations. Government and business both have a central role in building the future for South Africa.

    And that is why the British government is backing to the hilt our businessmen’s confidence in the new South Africa. In July we launched our “Opportunity South Africa” campaign, a campaign which should redouble the interest of British exporters and investors in South Africa. In Cape Town next March the Royal Yacht will be here to host major British promotional events. There will be other British business events in Durban in June and a trade fair in Johannesburg in September. And that, of course, is in addition to our regular programme of missions and trade fairs, 13 this year and more to come in 1995. We are seeking a partnership in practice as part of Britain’s contribution to South Africa.

    From afar we have perhaps a unique perspective on what is happening in this country and we have a unique concern for this country. You face, I believe, a twin challenge in South Africa, not just to accelerate economic growth, but also to transform your society, to strengthen local black enterprise, to transform investment both in human capital and in the physical infrastructure, to help your already capable economy move forward into the new era.

    Yesterday, President Mandela and I signed a memorandum, a memorandum establishing the framework for development cooperation between Britain and South Africa. Britain has pledged to provide 100 million of development aid over the next 3 years, 60 million as a direct bilateral grant.

    This is not just a question of aid, that on its own is helpful but not remotely sufficient. What it means is cooperation, cooperation in your new venture, your reconstruction and development programme, which will give new opportunities as well.

    And our cooperation will be targeted on the growth of business in South Africa, providing business skills training in South Africa, helping small businesses, especially black businesses, to market their product, help with maths, science, with English teaching for the disadvantaged, and advice and assistance for new investors here in South Africa in the future.

    Many British companies are already making a significant contribution to reconstruction. East Midlands Electricity has established a joint venture in the Kileacher [phon] Township in Cape Town which is now bringing electricity to half a million homes that previously had none. Many British companies are already doing a great deal in providing management skills and training for the workforce of South African companies.

    There is, for example, a CBI scholarship scheme which provides placements for young South African engineers in the United Kingdom. Companies like Cable and Wireless, who recently won a major contract for the supply of mobile telephone networks, run active support programmes of this kind. And Smith and Nephew’s educational trust has already assisted some 75 doctors through medical school, and I am delighted to say that they propose to accelerate their programme.

    We want to do more to unlock the great business potential that exists in the townships. Two months ago, a large group of senior British businessmen visited Soweto, they talked to the Soweto Chamber of Commerce, and they were so impressed by what they heard that they decided to offer help, practical help, practical help for men and women who were keen to set up their own business. That business culture exists here, as elsewhere, there is a vast demand for people who, given the chance, would wish to establish themselves and their own enterprise, to build their own security, on their own initiative, in their own future, in their own country, and we wish to try and help them do so.

    So I am delighted to announce today that some 30 British firms, including many of those who are your guests at this luncheon today, have now undertaken to take businessmen, initially from Soweto, into their own companies to gain experience in management, telecommunications, pharmaceuticals, electronics, water construction and information technology. They will take them into their companies, they will train them, they will teach them, they will give them opportunities perhaps that they did not have before, and then they will come back and apply their skills here in their own townships and their own country.

    Mr President, to build on the Soweto initiative, we are establishing through the Commonwealth Development Corporation and Banks, a venture capital fund to finance small businesses and the aim is to allow these businesses to grow and to generate wealth which will benefit the whole community.

    These are some, a selection, of the practical ways in which we believe we can contribute to South Africa’s future economic development and prosperity. But it is just a beginning. I want to share with you my conviction that the long-term political stability in South Africa will be rewarded with long-term growth and prosperity. South Africa has an enormously strong foundation on which to build, a foundation of world class companies. Their future is in her hands and I, for one, am confident as to what that future will be.

    Let me turn finally to some wider economic issues. Let me say a word or two, if I may, about my own country to those businessmen who trade and invest in it, and have a trading relationship with it, who may be here today.

    In Britain we now have the most favourable combination of economic circumstances that we have experienced for very many years. Let me explain why that is. Output is rising steadily, the economy as a whole is growing faster than the forecasters had predicted, inflation is at its lowest for a generation, investment .s p 6 percent on just a year ago, consumer demand is growing and unemployment is on a downward path, and importantly, trade is healthy and flourishing, the August figures for British trade with countries outside the European Union were announced only a few hours ago, and I am pleased to tell this audience that exports rose, yet again, to a new record level.

    It is to achieve this sort of circumstance, this prospect upon which to build in the future, that we have worked unceasingly in Britain to reduce the burdens on business. I do not pretend remotely that we have reduced all those that we would wish to reduce, and I can say to you categorically that we have not yet remotely finished with this programme of reducing burdens. We seek to scrap unnecessary government regulations, make sure there are no exchange controls, reduce business taxes, eliminate subsidies, transfer old-fashioned state owned industries into dynamic private sector ownership, that is the path that we have been following for many years, and it has set out an opportunity for the future that would not otherwise have been there.

    And in Europe, Britain was the driving force behind dismantling trade barriers and creating the Single Market. It is our determination that the European Union will maintain low trade barriers with the rest of the world, and we worked hard to obtain that vital GATT agreement just a few months ago.

    I welcome, unreservedly, your South African government’s commitment to the private sector. South Africa is now back in the international community, it has to compete with other economies elsewhere in the world to attract new investment and to sell its products. And many of these countries, not just in Europe, but in South America, Asia and elsewhere, they are increasingly lifting financial controls, reducing tariffs and phasing out special subsidies. You know that to compete it will be essential to follow the same path.

    Such changes are not always easy to make, and I understand that they cannot be made at a stroke, but over time they are essential if industry is to be self-reliant and competitive, essential if two-way trade is to expand freely and rapidly, essential to attract the vast array of overseas investment that I believe is waiting there and willing to come from overseas to invest here in South Africa.

    we welcome South Africa’s membership of the Southern Africa Development Committee. As relations develop with your neighbours, trade and investment should begin to flow more freely. There is scope for cooperation over essential utilities, electricity, water. But the most effective form of regional cooperation at this stage, may well be to reduce trade barriers and to simplify order procedures, that process holds out the promise of wider regional markets for South African products.

    Mr President, for my party and I this has been a memorable visit, memorable because we have waited a long time to be able to make it, memorable because of the generosity of the reception that we have received here in South Africa, memorable because of the two-way opportunities that we are convinced exists as a result of what we have seen and what we have heard on this visit. I have been struck by the tremendous hope for the future which so many expressed. In all the vast array of words in the English language, hope is the one that one most likes to hear. And there is hope here in South Africa, hope perhaps where there was none some time ago, opportunities where there were fewer, a chance for the future that once did not exist, but does now.

    I have heard businessmen and financiers, both South African and British, speaking with optimism about South Africa’s economic prospects. I have discussed those prospects with President Mandela and with his senior political colleagues, I have seen for myself, yesterday in Cape Town, and today here in Johannesburg, how much South Africa has to offer. And I believe that your hope and your optimism is well founded. You can, I believe, be confident about your future. And we in Britain share that confidence.

    Last April the elections in South Africa were seen in every part of the world when people watched, as they did, those remarkable elections taking place. Those elections in South Africa were seen as a political miracle, we want to help turn your political miracle into an economic miracle in the future.

    The message is clear, South Africa is open for business. And let me say to you, Mr President, Britain’s message is clear too, we are here to do business and we look forward to it.