Category: 1995

  • PMQT – 9 February 1995

    Below is the text of Prime Minister’s Question Time from 9th February 1995.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Engagements

    Q1. Mrs. Roche: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 9 February.

    The Prime Minister (Mr. John Major): This morning, I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in the House, I shall have further meetings later today.

    Mrs. Roche: Given the news that Eastern Electricity has made millions of pounds by billing its customers up to three weeks early, that seven of its directors now have share options of £3 million, and that the salary of its chairman has more than doubled since privatisation, is not it about time that the Prime Minister intervened, or will he just let them get away with daylight robbery?

    The Prime Minister: I entirely agree with what has been said about the undesirability of early billing, and no one should have the slightest shred of doubt that I do not approve of that particular mechanism. I understand that the company has indicated that it will not occur again, and I am delighted that that is the case. We have debated extravagant awards in the House on previous occasions. I have made it clear that that is a question for peer pressure in the private sector. I look forward to the recommendations of the Greenbury committee and to examining them, but it is best dealt with in that manner.

    Mr. King: Does my right hon. Friend recall the attack on Tuesday by the right hon. Member for Yeovil (Mr. Ashdown) about being forced to sack teachers? Is my right hon. Friend aware that the right hon. Gentleman is, at this moment, supporting the Liberal Democrat leadership in Somerset, which is insisting on sacking teachers, even though Conservative councillors have put forward proposals so that those jobs need not be lost, and for ways in which the education in the county can be protected? Is not that symptomatic of the Liberal Democrat party, which is more interested in scoring political points than in genuinely seeing how the education of children can be protected?

    The Prime Minister: I was not aware of the point about the Liberal Democrat council to which my right hon. Friend refers, and, frankly, I wish that I had been aware of that when the right hon. Member for Yeovil (Mr. Ashdown) asked his question on Tuesday. It is important that, in the question of priorities in all local authority budgets, and particularly in education budgets, education authorities look carefully at the right education priorities for the children in our schools. That may well apply to Somerset county council, to which my right hon. Friend refers. It applies equally to many other education authorities.

    Mr. Blair: Does the Prime Minister accept it as a responsibility of Government to reduce inequality?

    The Prime Minister: Yes.

    Mr. Blair: Then, if the right hon. Gentleman accepts that– [Interruption.]

    Madam Speaker: Order.

    Mr. Blair: If he accepts that, is not it a matter of shame that Britain is today more unequal than at any point in time since the second world war?

    The Prime Minister: If people were relatively less well off, then I agree with the right hon. Gentleman. The primary concern of all Governments must be to ensure that those people who are most vulnerable and those who are most in need are not ignored by the legislation of the day and that special care is taken to look at their particular interests. If the right hon. Gentleman examines the record, he will find that that is what we have continually done. It is the right way to proceed and it is the way in which people develop policies, not just through the social security system, but right the way through the whole gamut of Government responsibilities. That is persistently what we have done and will do.

    Mr. Blair: The right hon. Gentleman has not contradicted the fact that inequality is greater than at any point in time since the second world war. Now, if the Prime Minister wants a fact, let me give him one. Is not the most telling fact of this week that, at the same time as the Government are doing nothing about the head of a privatised utility awarding himself 70 times as much as a teacher and 100 times as much as a nurse, the Cabinet has today devised a strategy that may see teachers sacked and classroom sizes rising? Is not it the case that, far from reducing inequality or creating a nation at ease with itself, after 16 years the Government have created a Britain that is divided, inefficient and unjust?

    The Prime Minister: That is an extremely good soundbite, but it is not true. There are two ways in which one can deal with the sort of people about whom the right hon. Gentleman and I are concerned. One is by ensuring that their chances and opportunities are greater so inequality falls; that is the right way and that is what the Government are doing. The other way is to try to restrain success and that is what the right hon. Gentleman strives to do; that is the wrong way. What must concern people is that action is taken to improve the opportunities and living standards of the people who face the greatest difficulties. That is consistently what we have done and I believe that, in respect of that, we deserve not the kind of carping comments that the right hon. Gentleman has just made, but his support and that of every other Member of the House.

    Mr. John Townend: Does my right hon. Friend accept that thousands of women agree with my hon. Friend the Minister for Transport in London? When they travel on public transport and happen to sit beside a drunk, someone high on drugs, or young thugs, they feel intimidated. They feel much safer in their motor cars and they will not give up those cars purely as a gesture of environmental tokenism.

    The Prime Minister: I believe that the need to ensure that everyone, whether a lady or anyone who is vulnerable, can travel on public transport or on the streets with proper protection, is a point that everyone will readily understand. The point made by my hon. Friend the Minister for Transport in London yesterday, which was widely misinterpreted by some, was that motorists’ attitudes need to be changed and few will disagree with that.

     

    Q2. Mr. Ronnie Campbell: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 9 February.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Campbell: The Prime Minister will be aware that Trafalgar House is making a bid to take over Northern Electric plc. Is he also aware that if that bid takes place, the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Treasury stand to lose £223 million–the equivalent of £8 in every taxpayer’s pocket? Will the Prime Minister assure me that he will stop that merger and stop ripping off the taxpayer?

    The Prime Minister: The hon. Gentleman knows very well that I am not remotely likely to respond to something of that sort happening in the private sector. I am not likely to respond to it now, but if he wishes to discuss the matter with my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade, he should contact him.

    Mr. Tracey: Has my right hon. Friend caught sight of the letter in today’s edition of The Times , signed by 17 of Britain’s senior business men, in which they say that their firms would see no discernible benefits from a single European currency? Does my right hon. Friend agree that that gives great force to the policies of Her Majesty’s Government–now and in the foreseeable future?

    The Prime Minister: As my hon. Friend knows, I have taken the view that we ought not to contemplate a single currency until and unless we are convinced that that would be right for the country. That is the only basis on which we can make that judgement. We need to know the circumstances of the day and they cannot possibly be known now. What is in the interest of this country must be paramount.

     

    Q3. Mr. Bill Michie: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 9 February.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Michie: Following the question asked by my right hon. Friend the Member for Sedgefield (Mr. Blair) and the Prime Minister’s reply, how can the Prime Minister reconcile supporting a financial policy which is depriving our children of a good education, taking away remedial help and cramming children into overcrowded classrooms, with waving the flag in Europe and saying that he is defending the future of this country? The future of this country is with our children.

    The Prime Minister: I cannot imagine anyone possibly disagreeing with the hon. Gentleman about that. Of course, that is the reason why funding for education has dramatically increased over the years; it is the reason why more of our children are getting O and A-levels than ever before; it is the reason why one in three of our children now go on to further and higher education, rather than one in eight when the Labour party was in power; it is the reason why we have introduced new vocational qualifications; it is the reason why we are extending nursery education; it is the reason why I abolished the binary divide. If the hon. Gentleman looks, he will see the greatest revolution for good in education in the past five years that we have known for generations.

     

    Q4. Mr. Nicholas Winterton: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 9 February.

    The Prime Minister: I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Winterton: Does my right hon. Friend accept that to govern effectively in the long-term, the Prime Minister and the Government of the day must understand and reflect the concerns of the people of the country? Following the question asked by my hon. Friend the Member for Surbiton (Mr. Tracey), is not my right hon. Friend increasingly encouraged by the fact that his robust and realistic stand on a single currency and his opposition to any further political integration in Europe is increasingly supported by the people–in business and elsewhere–of this country?

    The Prime Minister: There comes a moment when consensus becomes unanimity.

    Mr. Soley: Why does the Prime Minister think that a free market operating between countries that has got rid of all our trade barriers will not inevitably lead to a single currency?

    The Prime Minister: I see no reason to suppose that it should. [Interruption.] We have had free markets in many parts of the world for a very large number of years. I see no evidence that a single currency is inevitable as a result of that, nor do I share the view of the hon. Gentleman, which he clearly holds as it becomes more apparent that the Labour party is already wedded to a single currency, whatever the economic circumstances may be. That is the only implication which can possibly be drawn from the hon. Gentleman’s question. I simply have to say to him that I disagree with him.

     

    Q5. Mr. Ian Bruce: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 9 February.

    The Prime Minister: I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Bruce: Has my right hon. Friend had time to read the all-party Eurim group’s report on wealth creation through technology? Will he lend his name– [Interruption.]

    Madam Speaker: Order. The House must calm down. This is using up our precious time.

    Mr. Bruce: Has my right hon. Friend read the all-party Eurim group– [Interruption.] –of which many hon. Members are members– [Interruption.] –they might not know it, but they are–report on wealth creation through technology? Will he lend his name, as Al Gore and Jacques Delors have, to promoting information superhighway technology projects such as SuperJANET, the cable network and Internet, and make sure that the Government become a major customer of those technologies?

    The Prime Minister: The direct answer to my hon. Friend is no, I have not read it, but I have to say that it sounds irresistible. I will make it an early priority over this weekend to read it and discover the information contained therein about superJANET and other aspects of broad- band networks.

    Madam Speaker: An excellent question on which to end.

  • PMQT Written Answers – 8 February 1995

    Below is the text of the written answers relating to Prime Minister’s Question Time from 8th February 1995.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    European Union

    Mr. Mackinlay: To ask the Prime Minister what consultations have taken place on the European content on the draft framework document on Northern Ireland with (a) heads of Government in the EU other than the Taoiseach, (b) ministerial councils of EU states other than the Irish Republic, (c) the President of the EU and (d) individual commissioners of the EU.

    The Prime Minister: None.

    Mr. Mackinlay: To ask the Prime Minister if he will make it his policy to ensure that so long as Northern Ireland remains part of the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland interests will continue to be represented in the European Union’s various ministerial Councils exclusively by Ministers answerable to the Parliament at Westminster; and if he will make a statement.

    The Prime Minister: Under article 146 of the treaty of Rome, as amended by the treaty on European Union, member states’ representatives on the Council must be authorised to commit the Government of that member state. United Kingdom Ministers are answerable to the Parliament of Westminster, and will continue to represent the United Kingdom.

     

    Ian Greer

    Mr. Campbell-Savours: To ask the Prime Minister how many items he has received from Ian Greer in each week of the last month.

    The Prime Minister: None.

     

    Chequers

    Mr. Malcolm Bruce: To ask the Prime Minister what was the cost to public funds of the meeting held at Chequers on 13 January to review British foreign policy; and what are the rules determining which expenditures at Chequers shall be met from public funds.

    The Prime Minister [holding answer Tuesday 7 February]: It is not my usual practice to give the costs of individual meetings or receptions.

    Expenses incurred by Ministers and officials meeting at Chequers in the course of official duty are met by the Cabinet Office.

  • PMQT Written Answers – 7 February 1995

    Below is the text of the written answers relating to Prime Minister’s Question Time from 7th February 1995.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Engagements

    Sir Peter Tapsell: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 7 February.

    Mr. Harry Greenway: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 7 February.

    The Prime Minister: This morning I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in this House, I shall be having further meetings later today.

     

    Constitutional Change

    Mr. Simon Hughes: To ask the Prime Minister what constitutional change he proposes should take place in the United Kingdom before the end of the century.

    The Prime Minister: Any proposals for constitutional change will be put before Parliament when it is appropriate to do so.

     

    Staff Inquiry

    Mr. Cousins: To ask the Prime Minister between what dates Ms Baxendale served on the Scott inquiry team; and if he will list the members and grades and originating departments of the current team.

    The Prime Minister: Miss Presiley Baxendale QC has worked on Sir Richard Scott’s inquiry from 18 January 1993 to 31 March 1994 inclusive, and from 2 May 1994 to 13 May 1994 inclusive and thereafter from time to time as the need arises.

    The current members of the inquiry team are:

    |Department

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    Christopher Muttukumaru |Treasury Solicitor’s Department (Grade 5)

    David Price (Grade 5) |Department of Trade and | Industry

    Peter Edwards (Legal Officer) |Inland Revenue Solicitor’s | Office

    Karen Wiseman (Grade 7 |Crown Prosecution Service (Legal))

    Catherine Southern (Grade 7 |Crown Prosecution Service (Legal))

    Christopher Stone (HEO) |Department of Trade and | Industry

    Mufassir Mohammed (EO) |Department of the Environment

    Sonia Octave (AO) |Home Office

    Joanne Bishop (AA) |Home Office

    Velma Bernard (Personal |Department of Trade and Secretary) | Industry

    Wendy Moore (Personal |Department of Trade and Secretary) | Industry

     

    Downing Street Policy Unit

    Mr. Mandelson: To ask the Prime Minister from what sources the head of the Downing Street policy unit is paid; and if he will make a statement on the division of his role in relation to official and party matters.

    The Prime Minister: The head of the Downing street policy unit is paid from the Cabinet Office other services vote as a special adviser. Like other special advisers, and like his predecessors under this and previous Administrations, he assists me with work which is partly governmental and partly political.

     

    Coastal Protection

    Mr. Viggers: To ask the Prime Minister what funds are available other than funds available through the Department of the Environment and the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food in the current financial year for coastal protection and repair.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Member to the replies given yesterday by my hon. Friend the Minister of State, Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, Official Report, column 85, and my hon. Friend the Minister of State, Department of the Environment, Official Report, column 12 .

     

    Deception Island

    Mr. Tony Banks: To ask the Prime Minister what plans exist to clean up the site of the former British whaling station on Deception island.

    Mr. David Hunt: I have been asked to reply.

    Further work on the clean up of the former British station on Deception island is planned for 1996 97, subject to the allocation of funds and the co-operation of the other Antarctic treaty partners involved.

     

    Pay Rises (Utilities)

    Mr. Nigel Griffiths: To ask the Prime Minister if he will make it his policy to establish a committee to examine utility directors’ and chairmen’s pay rises, pension contributions and share options.

    The Prime Minister [holding answer 6 February 1995]: No. As I have previously made clear, private sector salaries and other remuneration are a matter for companies and their shareholders to decide, not the Government. We welcome the establishment of Sir Richard Greenbury’s group, which will prepare a code of good practice on directors’ pay and conditions, and the recent contribution made by the Institute of Directors.

     

    Special Advisers

    Mr. Milburn: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list the severance payments made to special advisers in each of the last five years indicating (a) the amount and (b) the date.

    The Prime Minister [holding answer 1 February 1995]: I refer the hon. Member to the reply given yesterday by my hon. Friend the Minister of State, Treasury, Official Report, column 69.

  • PMQT – 7 February 1995

    Below is the text of Prime Minister’s Question Time from 7th February 1995.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Engagements

    Q1. Mrs. Ewing: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 7 February.

    The Prime Minister (Mr. John Major): This morning, I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in the House, I shall be having further meetings later today.

    Mrs. Ewing: Since the Government’s policy has virtually destroyed the manufacturing base of the north of Scotland–including industries such as our pulp mills, oil fabrication yards and a smelter–and, more recently, led to the mothballing of three distilleries, is the Prime Minister prepared to allow the Cabinet to sit back and watch the destruction of our tourist industry as a result of the axing of rail services, both sleeper accommodation and Motorail facilities, to the north of Scotland ? Will he, as a courteous man, now instruct the Secretaries of State for Transport and for Scotland to afford the representatives from the north of Scotland a meeting–a request for which was submitted some six weeks ago–tomorrow to discuss those vital issues?

    The Prime Minister: Of course I shall look carefully at what the hon. Lady has to say. We are keen to see a successful tourist industry in the north-east of Scotland and elsewhere in the United Kingdom. If the hon. Lady looks right across Scotland as well as the rest of the United Kingdom, she will see that manufacturing industry is expanding, doing extremely well, making many things that just a few years ago were simply not made in Britain, and exporting at record levels around the world. In the past year there have been eight successive new monthly records in exports alone.

    Mr. William Powell: Will my right hon. Friend reaffirm the Government’s support for British agriculture in order to assert that farmers are as entitled as any other of Her Majesty’s subjects to earn their living under the law, and that includes selling their young veal calves at a proper market price if they so choose? Will he confirm that causing mayhem at British ports and airports is no way to stop practices in other countries that we have banned here, and that those who do so should take their cause to other countries in the Community and to the European Parliament, not pursue it here?

    The Prime Minister: My hon. Friend is right to stress the importance of the farming industry and entirely right to stress the fact that farmers have a right to carry on their trade within the law, as does everyone else. I think that my hon. Friend and the House know our opposition to veal crates and of the measures taken by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food to try to ensure that they are taken out of commission not just in the United Kingdom but right across Europe.

    Mr. Blair: Will the Prime Minister state clearly whether he agrees with the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, who has said that he would wait an eternity before joining a single currency?

    The Prime Minister: I set out in detail the conditions for a single currency, originally as long ago as 1990. I reaffirmed them in some detail last Friday. I made it clear last Friday that not only must the specific Maastricht criteria be met, but that in addition we would require other criteria to be met before we thought it appropriate to consider a single currency. Some years in advance of those being met, it is unwise to say either, “Yes we will proceed,” or, “No, we will never proceed.”

    Mr. Blair: On Friday, of course, the Prime Minister was generally facing both ways. Indeed, Conservative central office was briefing one message on Friday and Downing Street another yesterday. If he will not slap down his Chief Secretary, will he say whether he agrees with the Chancellor of the Exchequer, who is a supporter of monetary union, and who can foresee circumstances in which Britain would join and wants to do so by the end of the century?

    The Prime Minister: I have just set out in great detail precisely the circumstances in which we would find it appropriate to consider whether we should proceed to a single currency. The right hon. Gentleman has not yet indicated that for his own party at all. As to unity, we know that 50 of his Members of Parliament defied the Whip on Maastricht, 40 of his Members of Parliament defied the Whip on the European Communities (Finance) Act 1995 and the Labour party has had seven twists and turns over recent years as to whether or not it is in favour of the European Union. I repeat to the right hon. Gentleman that, as far as a single currency later this year is concerned, we would first require all the specific Maastricht criteria to be met. In addition, we would require other criteria to be met- -for example, relative flexibility of employment markets. My right hon. and learned Friend the Chancellor will set those out later this week. When those other matters are set out, we shall then consider whether it would be appropriate economically or constitutionally to proceed. I hope now that the right hon. Gentleman the Leader of the Opposition, having learnt what the right answer is to that question, will fashion his own policy.

    Mr. Blair: Let me put it specifically, then. If those circumstances are met, will the Prime Minister join?

    The Prime Minister: I have just told the right hon. Gentleman. When and if those circumstances are met, we shall look to see whether it is appropriate and in the British interests to join. Will the right hon. Gentleman tell us now whether he would join, yes or no? Does he know whether it would be in the British interest? No, he does not. All that he is concerned to do is to trail along the path behind the Euro-federalists, where he feels most happy.

    Mr. Blair rose —

    Madam Speaker: Order. The right hon. Gentleman has had three questions. I really cannot call him again. I am sorry.

    Mr. Blair rose —

    Madam Speaker: Order. I believe that the hon. Gentleman has had his third question. If he wants to reply– [Interruption.] The Prime Minister has asked him to reply. In that case, I call the Leader of the Opposition.

    Mr. Blair: I think– [Interruption.]

    Madam Speaker: Order. It is most unusual for Prime Ministers to ask the Opposition questions at Question Time.

    Mr. Blair: I think that it is excellent that the Prime Minister is getting into the habit of asking us questions rather than answering them himself. Can I tell him this, though? Until he decides where he stands on that issue as the Prime Minister of the day, his leadership will remain weak, his Cabinet divided and Britain effectively disabled in Europe.

    The Prime Minister: It is interesting to ask the right hon. Gentleman questions. It would be more interesting if he ever provided any answers.

    I have set out for the right hon. Gentleman the conditions in which it would be right for us to consider the interests of the United Kingdom. I will not make a judgment that is crucial to the constitutional and economic future of this country until I see the economic circumstances of the day– and, frankly, only a dimwit would ask me to. [Interruption.]

    Madam Speaker: Order. This is very time-consuming.

    Mr. Streeter: Does my right hon. Friend accept that his concept of a European Union of nation states co-operating and working together for their common interests is in touch with the majority view in the country? Does it not contrast starkly with the policies of the Opposition parties, which can be described as a total sell-out to Brussels?

    The Prime Minister: I think that this country has a very deep attachment to the nation state. The European Union that it seeks is a European Union based on nation states–a wider European Union, a free market European Union, a decentralised European Union, and not the federal European Union that the Opposition wish for and their Members of the European Parliament clamour for.

    Mr. Ashdown: Is the Prime Minister asking us to believe that it is none of his business, and not his Government’s responsibility, that school governors across the land are being forced to cut school budgets and sack teachers? Or is he saying that that is a price that our children should be prepared to pay so that he will have room for tax cuts at the next election?

    The Prime Minister: As ever, the right hon. Gentleman has his facts wrong. If he looks, he will see the increased spending on teachers, support staff, books and equipment. He will also see that the Audit Commission regularly identifies significant scope for savings by local authorities–not least Liberal Democrat-run local authorities–and their freedom to transfer more resources to education. The right hon. Gentleman may also learn that authorities are maintaining some 1 million surplus school places. Perhaps next time he asks a question, he will have ascertained some of those facts before doing so.

    Mr. Waller: Does my right hon. Friend agree that the publication of new guidance relating to appointments to quangos is an extremely positive and welcome advance? Is not the constant criticism directed at members of such bodies bound in time to become a disincentive, and to prevent public-spirited persons from putting their names forward for membership?

    The Prime Minister: Yes, I think that the review will prove extremely useful. It also emphasises that both the number and the real cost of non-departmental bodies have fallen significantly since 1979. As everyone who has examined the matter knows, the Opposition’s criticism of such bodies is really based on their dislike of parent choice in schools, their dislike of patient choice for fundholding general practitioners and their dislike of patient choice in hospitals. That is local choice, but they call it quangos. They wish to retain choice centrally now, as they always have.

     

    Q2. Mr. Gordon Prentice: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 7 February.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Prentice: Does the Prime Minister agree with the Secretary of State for Education, who believes that a teachers’ pay increase could be funded only at the expense of between 7,000 and 10,000 teaching jobs and a spiralling increase in class sizes? How does that square with what the Chancellor of the Exchequer said at lunchtime today–that extra cash is not available and is not needed? Who speaks for the Government on this matter? More important, who speaks for the children in our schools?

    The Prime Minister: We speak for the children in the schools. That is why we have given their parents choice, why we have given greater choice in schools, why we have produced performance tables, and why we have produced testing. That is why our crusade is for choice not to close city technology colleges, not to close grant-maintained schools, and not to close every element of choice that parents want and children need.

    Mr. Bill Walker: Has my right hon. Friend noticed that the Scots favour the Union between Scotland and England and the rest of the United Kingdom because the Scots, with less than 9 per cent. of the UK’s population, enjoy far more positions of importance–for instance, in the Cabinet, the proportion is in excess of 20 per cent., whatever the Government–in the military, in trade unions and in industry? That is what the Scots will not give up.

    The Prime Minister: My hon. Friend speaks in a tone that many people will recognise. There is no doubt about the advantages, both to the UK and to Scotland, of Scotland being a full part of the UK. I do not believe that anyone who has studied the problem doubts that for a single second. The talents– [Interruption.] The hon. Member for Banff and Buchan (Mr. Salmond) clearly has not studied it because he does doubt that. That is because he wants an independent Scotland disunited from the UK, in the middle of a European Union where it would have little or no influence, and that would damage the interests of Scots, the interests of Scotland and the wider interests of the UK. That is why his party must never be put in power in any way in Scotland or elsewhere.

  • PMQT Written Answers – 6 February 1995

    Below is the text of the written answers relating to Prime Minister’s Question Time from 6th February 1995.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Honours

    Mr. Kirkwood: To ask the Prime Minister how many persons were recommended for consideration for an MBE, OBE or CBE in 1994; how many were proposed by members of the public via the new procedure; and how many awards in each category were made in 1994.

    The Prime Minister: Some 3,000 recommendations were considered for the new year and birthday honours lists 1994, of which around 500 were supported by members of the public. It is not possible to break down the recommendations into categories, but the number of awards made were: CBE 201 awards; OBE 493; and MBE 1,202.

     

    Scott Inquiry

    Mr. McAllion: To ask the Prime Minister which Ministers and former Ministers have given evidence to the Scott inquiry.

    Mr. David Hunt [pursuant to the reply, 24 January, column 188]: I have been asked to reply.

    I wish to add the names of the following as Ministers who have given written evidence only to Sir Richard Scott’s inquiry: The Baroness Denton of Wakefield CBE

    The right hon. Richard Needham

     

    Next Steps Agencies

    Mr. Byers: To ask the Prime Minister, pursuant to his answer of 26 January to the hon. Member for Dover (Mr. Shaw), Official Report, column 300, what were the total costs of operating the Government Departments and next steps agencies in the economic planning regions; what is the total budget at their disposal; and to which regions they are attached.

    The Prime Minister: The running costs of civil departments in the United Kingdom totalled £14.6 billion in 1993 94.

    Information is not held by economic planning region and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

     

    British Association of Sheep Exporters

    Mr. Morley: To ask the Prime Minister when (a) he last met and (b) he was last contacted by the chairman of the British Association of Sheep Exporters.

    The Prime Minister: I have not met representatives of the British Association of Sheep Exporters and as far as I am aware they have not asked to meet me.

  • PMQT Written Answers – 3 February 1995

    Below is the text of the written answers relating to Prime Minister’s Question Time from 3rd February 1995.


    PRIME MINISTER:

    Act of Union

    Rev. Ian Paisley: To ask the Prime Minister if the treaty as well as the Act of Union with Scotland 1707 remains in full force in all its provisions, with particular reference to the Church of Scotland, the legal system for Scotland, the Scottish universities and Scottish banking together with the Union with England and for England, the Church of England, and the Union with Scotland.

    The Prime Minister: The Acts of Union of 1706 and 1707 which ratified the treaty of Union remain in force as a basic legal framework for the Union of Scotland and England. Within that framework the distinctiveness of the various areas mentioned has been preserved and developed in the light of changing circumstances.

  • Mr Major’s Speech to the Conservative Way Forward Dinner – 3 February 1995

    Below is the transcript of Mr Major’s speech to the Conservative Way Forward Dinner on 3rd February 1995.


    PRIME MINISTER:

    When you first invited me to address this dinner some six months ago, I was delighted to accept.

    Your very name begs questions we are wise to address: I’d like to set out some thoughts tonight on the way forward on the economy, on Europe and on Northern Ireland. But before I turn to these, let me touch on the wider question.

    There’s often the tendency to search for a new Holy Grail – a single big idea to enthuse the mind and attract the millions.

    In truth, one idea – however big – won’t do.

    The world changes continually – faster today than ever before – and we must catch and mould that change. That is why I have put in train Policy Groups not only to provide the widest possible review of the right policies for the next Election, but for the new Millennium as well.

    These groups will look at Britain’s role in the world, and the opportunities that lie ahead.

    This will be wide-ranging. And I would certainly welcome contributions from Conservative Way Forward.

    Of course, some will say “We’ve won 4 successive General Elections. Why change?” The answer is we won 4 successive General Elections because we changed. We changed the way governments fought inflation, fought union power, reduced punitive levels of personal taxation and increased our prestige in the world.

    These changes played to our natural instincts. They also reflected what people wanted – articulated what people felt. They put the country first and they increased choice, opportunity and freedom. Now and always, that is always the right way forward for the Conservative Party.

    We are different from other political parties. We are not interested in the nanny state. We’re not interested in managing a graceful decline for our country. We have faith in Britain and in the talents of the British people. We believe Britain’s influence can grow. We plan to make it grow. And we have a lineage and maturity unmatched by any other British political party.

    Our broad objectives are simply stated. First, to build a more powerful economy without which all our other ambitions fail. Second, to lift our national ambitions, and exercise our influence both in Europe and the wider world.

    Over recent years, national morale has been bruised. The recession hurt. It was longer and deeper than anyone expected. But the point is, we’re through it. It’s over. Its time for Britain to be more confident. To reassert our merchant venturing spirit. To be more outward looking and assertive. And we’re right to be so because we’ve come out of our difficulties in better economic shape than anyone imagined.

    That hasn’t happened by magic, by chance. It’s happened because we’ve taken economic decisions to build long-term success, not short-term popularity. We ignored siren voices with quack remedies; those who said don’t worry about the deficit, it’ll go away; go soft on inflation, it won’t rise. We said no.

    And because we did we are now on track to deliver stable growth and low inflation for the long-term. The prospects are good. The pessimists are being confounded. They said

    – manufacturing was dead. It’s expanding.

    – The trade gap would widen. It’s narrowing.

    – Inflation would take off. It hasn’t.

    – Unemployment would reach 5 million. It’s half that and falling.

    The pundits have recast the old phrase “no news is good news”. Now it seems to be “good news is no news”. Well, let me offer an alternative news summary.

    Last year we had growth of 4 per cent. More than anyone else in Europe. That 4 per cent growth went into investment and exports. It packaged the feel-good factor and has cut unemployment by 500,000 over the past two years.

    Exports are booming. Month after month new records are set.

    Not many years ago our motor industry was a basket case. Now we are set to be a net exporter of motorcars.

    A few years ago the British steel industry was at death’s door. Now it is one of our top ten exporters.

    A few years ago the British motorbike industry was ridden off the road. Now British companies are exporting high value motorcycles to the Japanese.

    The fact is British industry is hugely competitive. It’s penetrating markets more deeply than ever before and it is doing so while its markets are still coming out of recession. As they grow, so should our exports.

    Let me just offer one final thought for our alternative news summary. It illustrates our changing circumstances very vividly. When you put visible and invisible trade together, the United Kingdom is now in surplus with Japan.

    All this is important because economic success not only creates jobs, but yields taxes to enable us both to meet our social ambitions and diminish the impact of tax.

    It means as the economy grows, we can return to our tax cutting agenda.

    The policies of the other parties are to put taxes up. The Liberal Democrats have kindly pointed that out by costing Labour’s programme and calculating it would put 5p on the standard rate of tax. The fact is; as Labour head for 30p, I tell you this: we’re still heading for 20p.

    Let me turn now to Europe.

    Europe is important. It is important for our security, and for our industry. Economic well being is at the heart of our European policy. The European market is half of our trade. It is the main reason why companies in Japan, Korea, the United States choose to invest in the UK. It’s one reason why the City remains the world’s leading financial centre.

    So Europe’s future matters to us. To our livelihood. To our living standards. To our jobs. We should debate it. And we have an obligation to shape it and make it congenial to us. The basis of our approach is the framework I set out at Leiden. Let me hammer home some of the points.

    We must have an intelligent, informed and commonsense debate about what is best for the United Kingdom and for the prosperity of Europe as a whole. I believe we are developing a policy that will command the support of the broad mass of the British people.

    It is high time we de-mystified next year’s Intergovernmental Conference. We want it to succeed. We should strip away the speculation and the scare stories and look at the realities.

    I know many people fear the IGC is going to take a leap towards a centralised, high-spend, interventionist Europe.

    But it isn’t. It is not what the people of Europe want. It is not what their economies need. And it is not what a growing number of Europe’s leaders expect. And it is not what Douglas Hurd and I will accept.

    Popular opinion across Europe can’t be ignored.

    Ambitious schemes for centralism simply will not get through. Britain for one will not accept them. Nor will electorates across Europe, where in many countries a referendum would have to be held.

    What we will aim for is a more flexible European Union. That is the only way forward which makes sense as Europe enlarges.

    A Europe of 15, possibly 20 around the turn of the century and more than 25 beyond that, cannot be the same as a Europe of 6. Talk of fast track and slow track misses the point. We do not all have to do the same things at the same time in the same way and we shall resist pressure to do so. Unless Europe is flexible it will simply grind to a halt.

    In the negotiations, a balance will have to be found between competing interests. I’ve set out recently some areas where our position is firm. Ken Clarke made the point again yesterday. We cannot accept that sterling should be part of a single currency in ‘96 or ‘97. We don’t believe anyone could sensibly want to go ahead then but, if they do, we wouldn’t be with them. Nor can we accept a prejudgement – one way or the other – about some unknown time in the future. The right for our Parliament to take the decision it wants when it wants is undoubted.

    That lies in the future. To say “yes” now or “no” now is to operate on hunch not facts. No one knows what future economic circumstances will be. I will tell you my fear: unless economic conditions were right, a single currency would tear the European Union apart. And, by the right economic conditions, the Government does not only mean the Maastricht criteria – they are a necessary but not a sufficient condition to justify a single currency. Ken Clarke will go into further detail on this next week. The plain fact is that the powerful forces of free markets will massively determine these events. And they cannot accurately be foreseen now.

    Nor will we agree to a more prescriptive, centralist Europe, or removal of the nation states veto. The Cabinet are clear about that and our European partners know our views. Moreover, although they may only mutter it sotto voce, a number of our partners agree with us on these points.

    But to categorise this position as though it was our only view on Europe, and therefore – to use the buzz words – “sceptical” or “negative” or “anti” European is just plain wrong. We have our own vision of Europe and we are going to set it out and fight for it just as does every other nation in Europe.

    We will have a detailed menu of positive changes to improve Europe; to make it more responsive to the needs and concerns of its peoples; to make it more effective and more efficient; to make sure it works to our advantage.

    For example, the Single European Market is of huge importance to Britain. We were pioneers in creating it. We have to make sure that its rules are kept.

    We need also to improve the common European contribution to NATO and Malcolm Rifkind and Douglas Hurd have worked long and hard on our plans to do so.

    In this area, Britain must lead Europe and we are well placed to do so. For the Community itself, we need fewer laws but better laws; and we need those laws properly enforced right across the Union. For example, we are rightly concerned about fraud. We know it takes place in nation states. So we need a better mechanism to stop it. Clearly the UK cannot stop fraud in another EU country, so we need a cross-European mechanism to do so. We will need to provide those powers and Michael Howard’s proposals will help achieve this.

    We need recognition that those who make the largest contribution and have the largest populations should have a larger say. So voting weight and patterns need to be considered.

    We need to re-examine and review the institutions of the European Union.

    To re-inforce the democratic authority of the Council of Ministers as the voice of the nation states.

    To make the role of the European Parliament more relevant. To ensure it exercises effective scrutiny of the Commission’s work. And we need also to involve national parliaments more in the legislative process.

    We need fewer Commissioners and a more efficient, cost-conscious Commission. We need to continue to reduce the burden on business and to oppose unnecessary intervention and regulation.

    This list is simply illustrative of the matters we must consider as we approach the IGC.

    One thing above all rules my approach to Europe. Not impractical, elitist opinion, pro or anti. Not dogma or emotion. But a hard-headed view of what is best for this country and for Europe.

    I know there are plenty of things wrong with Europe that we must change. But there are also plenty of opportunities in Europe that we must take.

    We would not help our national interest by turning away or simply trying to obstruct. We help our national interest by changing what is wrong and convincing people of our case. We have a good case. One that suits this country. One that will improve Europe for all its participants. We should not shrink from putting that case and we will not.

    Next year’s Conference will give us an opportunity to do so and we should approach it in that spirit.

    From Europe, let me return to the UK.

    This has been a difficult week for Northern Ireland.

    People have been unsettled. Rumours and fears have swirled around that could damage the prospects of peace.

    I’ve never promised that the present initiatives would lead to a permanent peace.

    I hope they will.

    I pray they will.

    But I’ve never promised.

    These negotiations are difficult and delicate. We’re seeking to overcome generations of mistrust and put in place a better future.

    In preparing a Framework Document, we’re doing what the parties asked us to do. Proposing ideas to help the political talks. And that is what they are – ideas. There’s not a prescription that is going to be imposed.

    I believe it would be a tragedy if this process failed – and a double tragedy if it failed on the back of a misconception. So let me deal with some of the points that worry people.

    Are we going to remove British citizenship from those who cherish it?

    This is inconceivable.

    The people of Northern Ireland are British.

    But they also have long had a right – if they so choose – to citizenship of the Republic.

    We have no intention of changing this.

    The birthright of Northern Ireland’s people, from either tradition, is not an issue.

    Is it true, as The Times said, that a North/South body will “make policy” towards the European Union?

    This is nonsense.

    The European Union deals with all sorts of people right across the United Kingdom. It is helping in Northern Ireland.

    But making policy is a wholly different matter. The Government of the United Kingdom represents Northern Ireland at all levels in Europe. We shall continue to do so. There’s no question of surrendering control of European policy to any other body – in Northern Ireland or elsewhere.

    But what about this plan for the British and Irish Governments to intervene jointly in Northern Ireland? For some over-arching mechanism?

    Let me put it very simply. There will be no joint sovereignty, no joint authority between London and Dublin, and no joint intervention by the British and Irish Governments. I cannot be clearer than that.

    If problems arose, and I naturally hope they wouldn’t, it would be the United Kingdom Government’s responsibility to deal with them – and ours alone. That is our role, and our responsibility.

    Are the people of Northern Ireland going to be on a slippery slope?

    Of course not. The consent principle is our foundation stone.

    The parties must consent to any outcome. And when they have done so the people must consent in a referendum.

    Am I going to be a “persuader” for a united Ireland?

    The answer emphatically is – No.

    Some time ago, I said about Scotland that “no nation can be held within a Union against its will”.

    Equally, the people of Northern Ireland cannot and will not be forced out of the Union against their will.

    They have a constitutional guarantee.

    For my part, I cherish the United Kingdom, and Northern Ireland’s part in it.

    So I take the view it is not for the Government to tell the people of Northern Ireland what their future should be. It is for the people of Northern Ireland to decide that future for themselves.

    To all of these concerns, there is one fundamental answer.

    The sole purpose of the Framework Document will be to help the parties reach agreement. There will be no outcome to these talks unless the parties agree. And the outcome will not be implemented unless the people of Northern Ireland vote for it.

    That is why I repeat that they have nothing to fear.

    Let me also mention the exploratory talks with Sinn Fein and the Loyalist representatives.

    This is an unprecedented dialogue with an unprecedented backcloth.

    In the past 5 months, two murders have tarnished the peace.

    But during the “ceasefire” of 20 years ago, there were around 150 violent deaths.

    A different climate is being established.

    Our assurances have been critical to the dialogue.

    We said that there had been no secret deals to favour one side over the other.

    We promised a level and open playing field – for all who would live by peaceful, democratic rules.

    And on this basis, talks are taking place.

    What matters is that everyone should be ready to talk about all these issues, however difficult.

    Then we can make progress.

    I have no illusions about the task.

    But we shall not concede to the fear of failure.

    For what is the alternative?

    As Archbishop Robin Eames said yesterday:

    “I cannot see an alternative to a political process, an alternative to patient groping on the way forward. The price of failure is to return to where we have come from, to constant human cost in lives and everything else.”

    There is no more to be said.

    At the next election the stakes will be high. There are differences between we Conservatives and the opposition on the economy, on Europe, on the constitution, on health, on education. Right the way across the present Government agenda.

    No one should fear that there is not a distinctive choice to be made.

    The next election will determine whether our world-beating industries stay competitive or sink under a morass of rules from Whitehall and Brussels.

    It will determine whether the state will take ever more money out of the pockets of the people, or whether we will get back to the natural Tory principle of reducing taxes as fast as possible.

    It will determine whether we continue to be a self-determining nation state or not.

    In the 1990s we can build on the great achievements which we have made since 1979 – or we can throw it all away, giving power to the very people who resisted each and every one of the changes that have revolutionised the lives of Britain’s people.

    This fight matters as much as any we have conducted before. These are the policies I believe in. These are the policies I am going to fight for and with which I believe we’ll win.

  • PMQT Written Answers – 2 February 1995

    Below is the text of the written answers relating to Prime Minister’s Question Time from 2nd February 1995.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Ministerial Visits

    Rev. Martin Smyth: To ask the Prime Minister what proposals he has to visit Belfast, South.

    The Prime Minister: I have no immediate plans to do so.

     

    Engagements

    Mr. Harry Greenway: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 2 February.

    The Prime Minister: This morning I presided at a meeting of the Cabinet and had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in the House, I shall be having further meetings later today.

     

    Countryside Council for Wales

    Mr. Ron Davies: To ask the Prime Minister, pursuant to his answer of 26 January, Official Report, column 300, to the hon. Member for Cardiff, West (Mr. Morgan), if he will list the representations he has received concerning the impact of reduced activity by the Countryside Council for Wales on the commitment arising from the biodiversity convention under the Rio treaty; and if he will make a statement.

    The Prime Minister: I have now received three such representations–from the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds, the Wales Wildlife and Countryside Link and a member of the public. My right hon. Friend has no plans to privatise the Countryside Council for Wales.

     

    Cabinet Office Funding

    Mr. Duncan: To ask the Prime Minister what proposals there are to change the 1994 95 cash limit or running costs limit for the Cabinet Office: other service vote.

    The Prime Minister: Subject to parliamentary approval of the necessary supplementary estimate, the cash limit for the Cabinet Office: Other Services, class XIX, vote 1, will be increased by £1,500,000 from £44,833,000 to £46,333,000. At the same time the running costs limit will be increased by £1,000,000 from £43,214,000 to £44, 214,000.

    The increases reflect transfers from the Cabinet Office: Office of Public Service and Science, class XVIII, vote 1, of £500,000 for central services and £1,000,000 running costs coverage in respect of functions already transferred to class XIX, vote 1.

    Both increases are offset by inter-departmental transfers and will not therefore add to the planned total of public expenditure.

  • PMQT – 2 February 1995

    Below is the text of Prime Minister’s Question Time from 2nd February 1995.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Engagements

    Q1. Mr. Waterson: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 2 February.

    The Prime Minister (Mr. John Major): This morning, I presided at a meeting of the Cabinet and had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in the House, I shall be having further meetings later today.

    Mr. Waterson: Does my right hon. Friend accept that the goal of a peaceful settlement in Ulster is worthy of the courage and patience that he has demonstrated? Will he continue to assure the people of the Province that any final decision will always rest with them?

    The Prime Minister: I entirely agree with my hon. Friend. I believe that there is a communal will not to be distracted from the goal of a peaceful, permanent and agreed settlement in Northern Ireland. I am happy to repeat the assurance that I have given in the past–the outcome of the political talks, after the main constitutional parties have met and agreed the outcome, will be put to people in a referendum before further action is taken. It is they who will decide, and nothing will be imposed on them.

    Mr. Blair: On Northern Ireland, the Prime Minister has our full and continued support. On interest rates, however, perhaps the right hon. Gentleman will confirm as a matter of fact that after mortgage rises, the cutting of mortgage tax relief and the imposition of the new home insurance tax, the typical home owner will have been paying an extra £800 a year since last April.

    The Prime Minister: As to the first part of the right hon. Gentleman’s comments, I appreciate the support of the official Opposition and of other parties as far as Northern Ireland is concerned. It is a strength of the process that there is such widespread support for it.

    Of course, I appreciate the impact of interest rates on home owners, but what would be most damaging to home owners would be for inflation to take off in the way that it did on past occasions. Interest rates are there to ensure that we have a recovery that curbs inflation. The policies repeatedly advocated by the shadow Chancellor would lead to inflation taking off–and the worst losers from that would be home owners. As a result of our policy on home ownership, the cost of mortgages has fallen dramatically from the peak in interest rates. The right hon. Gentleman is well aware that that is the case.

    Mr. Blair: I notice that the right hon. Gentleman does not deny the figures. What type of recovery peaks when for millions it has barely even begun? The right hon. Gentleman and his Ministers will scrabble around in vain for the feel-good factor when mortgages, taxes and industry’s costs are up, and when people feel more insecure precisely because they know that they are worse off under the Tories.

    The Prime Minister: I have to say to the right hon. Gentleman that he has a cheek to deny history in the way in which he just did. The level of interest rates that we have reached today is the level that was the lowest achieved at any stage under the previous Labour Government in five years of Government. The average was far higher. They also had negative interest rates and were robbing savers of their savings by devaluing the currency. [Interruption.] It is because of that sort of irresponsibility that no one will ever again trust the Labour party to run the economy. It is determined to take the short-term option and to ignore the long-term interests.

     

    Q2. Mr. Couchman: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 2 February.

    The Prime Minister: I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Couchman: Does my right hon. Friend agree that the 40 per cent. of American and Japanese investment in Europe that comes to the United Kingdom is essentially dependent on our membership of the European Union? Does he further agree that if we cease to be at the heart of Europe those investors will rethink their European operations locations?

    The Prime Minister: Yes. It depends on two points: both our membership of the European Union and the conditions of our membership of the European Union. Certainly, the fact that we are members has helped attract a great deal of investment into this country, but it would be lost if the conditions of our membership were to include the social chapter. [Interruption.] If the right hon. Member for Kingston upon Hull, East (Mr. Prescott) does not agree, perhaps he could ask the chairman of Daimler-Benz. He had something to say about the social chapter. This is the right hon. Gentleman on the social chapter who thinks that it will cost jobs. He admitted it at one stage. Now he denies it.

    Mr. Ashdown: Does the Prime Minister accept that, for as long as he puts the peace of Ireland first, he will command the overwhelming majority of the House and the country? Does he also agree that those who would put in jeopardy the peace of Ireland in order to pursue either narrow sectarian agendas or internal party power struggles, will meet the opposition of the House and earn the contempt of the country?

    The Prime Minister: I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for his support. There is nothing in the peace process that any party in this House need fear. There can be no slippery slope in any process that first requires the agreement of all the parties and then after the agreement of the parties has been obtained subsequently requires the agreement of the people of Northern Ireland themselves. I think that that is a categorical safeguard for all those who are concerned about the development of this process, and I hope that it will be accepted as such by people across ever strand of opinion in Northern Ireland. I hope that everyone will join actively in the search for a lasting settlement, a better future for the Province and a certainty that never again will we go back to the sort of atrocities and horrors that we have seen in Northern Ireland over much of the last quarter of a century.

    Sir Michael Marshall: Does my right hon. Friend accept that, on Britain’s role in Europe, much of the debate currently in the media is simply sensationalist and trivial? Does he further accept that the time is right for the House to have a full debate on that particular topic, so that we can steer the country in the direction in which we believe?

    Mr. Blair: Which manifesto?

    The Prime Minister: The right hon. Gentleman asks which manifesto we will debate. He might well ask whether we will debate the policy on Europe of the Opposition Front Bench or the policy of Labour Members of the European Parliament. He might ask whether we will debate his policy or that of the right hon. Member for Kingston upon Hull, East; the policy of the Labour Front Bench or the policy of the Labour Benches below the Gangway. There certainly is ample scope for a debate on Europe, but I say to my hon. Friend that we would need several days to debate the varied policies of the Labour party.

     

    Q3. Mr. Tipping: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 2 February.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Member to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Tipping: Will the Prime Minister ask his colleagues at the Department of Health why they have not yet resolved the case of Mr. Tony Ruffell, the former chief executive of the Nottinghamshire family health service authority? Following more changes in the health service, Mr. Ruffell has been sitting at home on a salary of £66,000 since last September. Should not there be more focus on patient care and less on bureaucracy?

    The Prime Minister: Of course there should, and that is why we are repealing a whole tier of bureaucracy in the health service–I hope that the hon. Gentleman will support us–and why we oppose the devolution of so much health to unwanted regional authorities throughout the country which would add to bureaucracy. On the detailed point, of course I will ask my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Health to refer to the hon. Gentleman, but if he had really wanted an answer he would have contacted my right hon. Friend.

    Mrs. Gorman: Has my right hon. Friend seen reports in the newspapers that half the Treasury building is to be rented out to the private sector? Will he confirm, for a suspicious person such as me, that that has nothing to do with Mr. Santer’s call for the abolition of our national currency?

    The Prime Minister: I can undoubtedly give my hon. Friend that assurance. On the substantive part of her question, I think that the action taken by my right hon. and learned Friend the Chancellor sets an example across Whitehall and beyond.

     

    Q4. Mr. Chisholm: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 2 February.

    The Prime Minister: I refer the hon. Member to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Chisholm: Given that Lord Wakeham privatised electricity and then moved to the board of Rothschild, which had carried through that privatisation, what will the Prime Minister be saying to him following today’s news that Rothschild is to be the merchant banker for the sell-off of Railtrack? Will he be telling him to keep his seat warm for the Secretary of State for Transport as a pay-off for this disastrous and deeply unpopular privatisation?

    The Prime Minister: I have no doubt that, over time, it will be as effective and popular a privatisation as those that we have had in the past. I know that the hon. Gentleman would still prefer to be subsidising the old industries by £50 million a week rather than taking in £50 million a week to the Exchequer for the good use of the public at large. That undoubtedly is what would have happened had we not privatised those industries in the past. As to the first part of the hon. Gentleman’s question, it does not merit a reply.

     

    Q5. Mr. Garnier: To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 2 February.

    The Prime Minister: I refer my hon. Friend to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Garnier: Will my right hon. Friend confirm his Government’s commitment to preserving the front-line strength of our armed forces, and will he contrast that with the Opposition’s only defence policy, which is to cut, cut and cut again?

    The Prime Minister: We are committed to stability for the armed forces. I promised that at Camberley recently and I made it clear that the big upheavals in the armed forces are over. The level of front-line manpower has been set and we do not intend to reduce it. My hon. Friend can be reassured of that. Nor do we intend to adopt Labour’s policy of scrapping nuclear defence, or a fresh defence review bringing uncertainty to each and every area of the defence services.

    Mr. Home Robertson: What is the Prime Minister’s reply to the hon. Member for Londonderry, East (Mr. Ross), who has said that the Prime Minister’s Northern Ireland initiative is dead and buried? Would it not be an affront to all the soldiers and civilians who have been killed and buried during the past 25 years if that initiative were to be jeopardised as a result of a malicious partial leak of a draft document? Is the Prime Minister aware that all our constituents are becoming weary of the ancient refrain of “Ulster says no”, which is still being parroted by some Unionist members, but, thankfully, only some Unionist members.

    The Prime Minister: I believe that there is a wish right across the House–including among hon. Members who represent Northern Ireland–to find a satisfactory way forward. I have not a shred of doubt about that. We have all watched with dismay the activities of the past 25 years; hon. Members who represent Ulster have lived through that in a way in which the hon. Member for East Lothian (Mr. Home Robertson) and I have not.

    I have no doubt, from my contact with hon. Members from Northern Ireland– in regard to points on which we agree, and points on which we do not agree- -about their sincerity in seeking to bring to a conclusion the miseries of the past 25 years. What I would ask of all hon. Members is that they wait for the framework document; that they study that document in its entirety; that they examine what it will mean; that they recognise that it is there for consultation; that they then consult on it with other constitutional parties; and that if they agree, they then agree–as I do–to abide by the will of the majority of people in a referendum.

    Mr. Skinner: To what end?

    The Prime Minister: The end–the hon. Member for Bolsover (Mr. Skinner) keeps shouting about it, as he did yesterday–is a very straightforward and simple one. It is to end the horrors of the past 25 years, and to ensure that never again are people killed month after month after month after month as they have been in the past 25 years. I would have hoped that even the hon. Member for Bolsover would support that enterprise.

  • PMQT Written Answers – 1 February 1995

    Below is the text of the written answers relating to Prime Minister’s Question Time from 1st February 1995.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Ministerial Visits

    Mr. Simon Hughes: To ask the Prime Minister (1) in which circumstances a Minister is not expected to notify the Member for the constituency visited by the Minister of a ministerial visit to the constituency, under paragraph 71 of “Questions of Procedure for Ministers”, May 1992;

    (2) what constitutes adequate notice of a ministerial visit, under paragraph 71 of “Questions of Procedure for Ministers” May 1992; (3) in which circumstances hon. Members are (a) invited and (b) not invited to make suggestions to Ministers about the inclusion of places which it would be helpful to visit, under paragraph 71 of “Questions of Procedure for Ministers”, May 1992.

    The Prime Minister: It is for individual Ministers to ensure that they comply with paragraph 71 of “Questions of Procedure for Ministers” and to judge what constitutes adequate notice. “Questions of Procedure for Ministers” makes it clear that informing the Members for the constituencies that they intend to visit is a courtesy which they should take special care not to overlook.