Tag: 2009

  • Sir John Major’s Article on Gordon Brown – 7 May 2009

    The text of Sir John Major’s article on Gordon Brown, published in the Daily Telegraph on 7th May 2009.


    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    In recent days, there have been many comparisons drawn between the present plight of the Labour Government and the final months of its Conservative predecessor. Similarities there may be – but the differences are striking.

    The Conservatives were in their 18th year of government: Labour is in its 12th. The Conservatives had no majority, and were at the mercy of a handful of rebels: Labour still enjoys a large majority. Conservative divisions were over policy – notably Europe – in which the dissenters believed they must prevail for the national interest: Labour has no such excuse. And – crucially – the Tory economy was well on track to full vigour: Labour’s is in the mire.

    In the mid-1990s, I was acutely aware the Tories were likely to lose the election. Indeed, on the morrow of the 1992 election victory, Chris Patten and I speculated on the unlikelihood of a fifth win: it was, we thought, stretching the democratic elastic just too far.

    Throughout the 1992-97 parliament, we tried to do what we believed was right for the country, although much of our programme was controversial – especially in our own party. We persevered with policies we believed would curb inflation and bring long-term economic benefit. So they did, but at the expense of our electoral prospects.

    Labour, by contrast, has retreated to tactics I believe they will live to regret. Too often, in the face of public hostility, they cite the last Conservative government as a precedent, the not-so-subliminal message being: “They’re worse than us.”

    It is not convincing. Take the roasting they received for mishandling the Gurkhas: Labour’s defence was that the Conservative government “had never done anything about it”. Nor had earlier Labour governments, and for the same reason: it had not been an issue. And if it had been an issue, why was there not a peep from Labour about it in the 1990s? Opposition days in Parliament are not a New Labour invention.

    After 12 years in office, excuses such as this are bordering on the desperate.

    Why do they do it? Habit, of course, for fact has never got in the way of New Labour fiction – it has been in their DNA since the mid-1990s.

    But now it seems they have lost all touch with reality: in their minds, what they say is truth, even if the facts don’t support it. Such delusion is dangerous – especially for a government.

    And it is continual. Since the Prime Minister can no longer defend Labour policies, he attacks a fictional Tory past at almost every Prime Minister’s Questions. To Mr Brown, the Tories are the enemy, therefore any criticism – however wrong or distorted – is permissible. Let us take one of his familiar attacks on David Cameron, flawed from beginning to end. According to Mr Brown, Mr Cameron was adviser to Norman Lamont when he raised interest rates to 15 per cent, and created three million unemployed. This is ludicrous. The belief that a 26-year-old political adviser would have been responsible for a Conservative government’s economic policies is fanciful. And – in any event – how does Mr Brown know what advice Mr Cameron offered his minister? He may well have advised against the government’s policies and been over-ruled.

    But Mr Brown doesn’t care: he simply wants to smear Mr Cameron for events over which he knows he had no control. The premise of his argument is also incorrect: interest rates were not raised to 15 per cent by Norman Lamont in the 1990s, but by Nigel Lawson in the 1980s.

    As chancellor, Norman reduced them from 14 per cent to 6 per cent.

    The Prime Minister is wrong about unemployment, too. First, a pedantic point: it did not reach three million under the Conservative government, but peaked well below. Furthermore, it was rising sharply long before Norman Lamont became chancellor, and David Cameron his adviser. Mr Brown knows all this, yet persists with charges that are fundamentally unworthy.

    And he is not alone. Other ministers continue to claim that Labour inherited three million unemployed whereas, in 1997, the claimant count was 1.6 million and falling rapidly.

    But Labour has not won three elections by allowing truth to get in the way of a good smear. The uncomfortable reality for Labour is that, however unpopular the last Conservative administration may have been, it was the only government in the last 50 years to leave office with every single economic indicator improving.

    In 1996-7, the economy had been growing for five years, and borrowing – now the nation’s nemesis – was £22 billion (although one of Labour’s “recalculations” upped it to £35 billion).

    Even so, the estimate for the current year is a staggering £175 billion. Similarly, total debt has doubled, and the taxpayer will be funding Labour’s debt mountain for many years to come.

    That the Conservatives bequeathed such a buoyant economy is not a truth universally acknowledged, for – in order to claim credit for the economy – Labour has peddled “disinformation” about its inheritance from the day it took office. The truth – apparent to independent economists – is that the years of prosperity under Labour were based on Conservative supply side changes (in the 1980s) and Tory destruction of inflation (in the 1990s).

    Did Labour build on that legacy? No. Instead, they squandered it, and will leave the country near bankrupt as a result. This slide from riches to rags inspires another Labour deception: that our present woes are entirely due to the financial crisis that began in America. Of course, there is an international dimension, but Labour’s alibi is – at best – a half-truth. Even if there had been no international crisis, the UK would still be in recession; our debts would still be at record levels; our pension system would still be wrecked; our education system would still need reform; our health system would still be unable to cope; and our prison system would still be overflowing with inmates who should not be there, while others who should are being released early.

    The Prime Minister hopes to win the next election but, in his heart, he must recognise his party is likely to lose. I offer him one piece of genuinely well-meant advice: fight the next election on policies, not personalities; on fact, not fiction; on substance, not spin. The people of this country deserve such a campaign, so that they can make an informed choice.

    It may not win Labour the next election, but Gordon Brown will leave office a more contented man.

  • Sir John Major’s Interview on BBC Sunday AM – 16 July 2006

    The text of Sir John Major’s interview on the BBC Sunday AM show with Andrew Marr, broadcast live on 16th July 2006.


    ANDREW MARR:

    Now I’m joined here in the studio by the former Prime Minister Sir John Major. Welcome.

    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    Good morning.

    ANDREW MARR:

    I’m going to go straight into that same story. I think you’ve known Shimon Peres reasonably well over the years. How did you respond to what he was saying this morning?

    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    Well I have known him very well. He’s one of the foremost statesmen of the Middle East and a man for whom I have a huge regard but what we’ve just heard over the last ten minutes or so really makes one despair.

    Here you have a classic non-meeting of minds. Both sides think absolutely that they are right. There seems to be no point of compromise at all. And the problem with what’s going on at the moment, with all the violence and the deaths that are going on at the moment, is that it will entrench bitterness, it will entrench hatred, and even if Hezbollah is defeated, even if the head of Hezbollah is cut off, a new Hezbollah will arise.

    At the end of the day this is going to have to be solved by negotiation, and what is happening at the moment – apart from the immediate destruction – is making the prospect of fruitful negotiation almost impossible. So I think we have stepped back from where we were a few months ago very dramatically in the last few weeks.

    ANDREW MARR:

    Grim stuff?

    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    It’s very grim. It’s very grim, and one sees little reason at the moment for any optimism at all.

    ANDREW MARR:

    Had this not been happening this weekend I suppose the front pages would have been dominated by what’s going on in southern Afghanistan where British troops are being support and increased and have made a major offensive, I think the biggest since the original war in Afghanistan. I know that you’ve been interested in this and observing it. What are your feelings about that?

    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    Well British troops are superb in the field in terms of conflict. But I think there are a number of reasons to be very concerned about what is happening in Afghanistan. For a start it’s not entirely clear, even to many of the military figures I’ve spoken to, precisely what the mission is. When the troops were first sent there by John Reid it was quite a low key mission.

    There wasn’t any suggestion of any real conflict. We saw just over the last day or so that there’s quite substantial conflict. We’ve seen a number of thefts. And now it seems the mission has escalated in a way that is really quite extraordinary. Apparently rather than just training local policemen and the modest mission that was originally there, it now seems to be to defeat the Taliban, to destroy the poppy crop, and in some form or another to nation build. Well that is a wholly different proposition to achieve with three and a half or four and a half thousand troops with reinforcement.

    ANDREW MARR:

    So you think we’re being sucked in to what is in effect a new war in southern Afghanistan?

    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    Well I don’t know exactly what we’re being sucked into, but I think anyone who looks at the history of Afghanistan would be concerned about the present circumstances. If you look back historically, admittedly a long time ago, there were three Afghan wars in which Britain didn’t even come a good second. In more recent years the Russians were there with 120,000 men for ten years.

    ANDREW MARR:

    During your time as Prime Minister of course, and Foreign Secretary and then …

    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    Foreign Secretary, yes. It ended just as I became Prime Minister but there was no connection. They were there for ten years, the Russians had 120,000 troops there. They lost, I think, 15,000. They had innumerable wounded, and they retreated defeated. So if we have, if we really have, a mission, as it now looks, that is to begin to resurrect and provide a new stable, democratic Afghanistan, it’s hardly achievable with three and a half thousand troops and nine hundred replacements just coming into theatre.

    And I think it is even less achievable when you consider exactly what those troops are ranged against. They’re ranged against the Taliban, they’re ranged against Al-Qaeda, they’re ranged against the warlords, against the drug lords, against infiltrators from Iraq, bandits from Pakistan, and the local population, who exist through their poppy crop and believe that is going to be destroyed, and if it is destroyed have nothing else upon which to have a livelihood whatsoever. Now if you mix those ingredients together, it’s a fairly unsavoury stew to be handled by three and a half to four a half thousand troops.

    ANDREW MARR:

    Put that way you make it sound virtually like mission impossible.

    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    Well, if the mission is as it now seems, and if we are going to stick with three and a half to four and a half thousand troops I do not see how the mission can be achieved however skilful the troops are. I have extraordinary admiration for them. I remember going out just before the first Gulf War and seeing our troops and being hugely impressed, but I also noticed they were very young.

    They were 19 to 23, 24, 25 and so will be the vast majority of troops out there. Now I think we owe it to them to be absolutely transparent about what their mission is, to ensure they have the best backup, and at the moment I don’t believe they have. Their Land Rovers are clearly inadequate.

    The helicopter situation I think is dire, both in terms of attack helicopters and support helicopters. The last information I had, and I’ve not heard it denied, is that they were having to cannibalise some helicopters in order to have others flying, and last week we had – I paraphrase, this may not have been exactly what he said – but the Defence Secretary seemed to be saying, “We will try and tease some helicopters out of our NATO partners.”

    ANDREW MARR:

    To fight a war…

    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    To fight what is increasingly looking like a very substantial engagement, if not a war.

    ANDREW MARR:

    And yet that leaves the country, Prime Minister particularly, with a very stark choice. Either pull out of what seems to be developing into a war of a kind, or else heavily reinforce and dig in for the long-term. So which way do you go?

    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    Well this is largely a NATO exercise. It isn’t just for the British. I think if you are going to ask the troops to carry out a mission of the scale it now seems to be – perhaps the government will say it isn’t that scale and draw it back – but if it is of the scale it now seems to be, then I think there is certainly going to be a need for better equipment, better backups, more troops, much greater liaison with NATO and perhaps more troops other than from the United Kingdom. But here again you have a problem. Many of the other nations who are in Afghanistan have particular national caveats. There are things that they will not do that we will.

    They have different rules of engagement, things they will not do that we will. And I hate saying this when British troops are in the field but I think someone has to make it clear that however skilled they are, however brave they are, however well led they are, they do need the logistical backup and they do need an absolutely clear and unmistakable mission that is achievable.

    ANDREW MARR:

    Yes.

    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    And in addition, we need to know what the exit strategy is. What do they have to achieve before the mission is accomplished and they come home? I don’t know and, more worryingly, I don’t think they do either.

    ANDREW MARR:

    Ten years ago, as Prime Minister, you were facing endless newspaper allegations of sleaze and you lost quite a few ministers one way and another. Now we have the prospect of the Prime Minister being investigated by the police and one of his closest associates arrested. It was never quite like that in your time. Do you think this is, in the end, a media storm, or do you think it’s a serious moment for the democracy?

    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    Well it certainly wasn’t like that in my time because if you actually look at what happened, I mean the question of sleaze and mud was originally invented by the Labour Party who threw it at the Conservative Party to damage us politically.

    What goes around comes around and they’re now suffering from that themselves. But if you looked at what happened in the 1990s, most of the so-called sleaze events in the 1990s were pieces of individual behaviour by people, either backbenchers or on one or two occasions ministers, they did not involve the government as a government. Let us be quite clear about that, they did not involve the government as a government. And those issues that people say were most serious – cash for questions being the most obvious one – actually took place before the 90s, they actually took place in the 80s, they just became apparent in the 90s and were used to wrap around the last government’s neck. But let me finish this point because I think it’s a good point.

    Where there is something that needs to be said, it has become very standard practice to refer to the last Conservative government in terms of sleaze. It is inaccurate. I remember the principle members of that government: Hurd, Heseltine, Clarke, Bottomley, Gummer, Shepherd, Brooke – where are the sleazy members amongst that cabinet and amongst that government? That is short-hand by the press for a whole series of incidents unconnected to the government but sometimes within the government party, that I concede, and on one or two occasions amongst ministers, that I concede.

    ANDREW MARR:

    But now?

    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    But not endemic to government. So there is, I think, a clear distinction between what happened then and what is happening now. And I think the other point about what happened then was that we had been in government so long, about 15, 16, 17, 18 years…

    ANDREW MARR:

    There’s a natural exhaustion. I understand that.

    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    Everything stuck.

    ANDREW MARR:

    But nonetheless, as a Prime Minister, you had to raise money, or people had to raise money on your behalf to fight general election campaigns. Now any suggestion that Tony Blair has been involved in trying to enrich himself personally, he’s trying to get the Labour Party enough money to fight their next election campaign or in this case the last one, is there an endemic problem with having Prime Minister of the country, leader of the opposition out there with a begging bowl, a cap, amongst all sorts of individuals desperately needing money?

    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    Most of Labour’s money still comes from the trade unions, over 50% over the past few years, it still comes from the trade unions which is why so much of their policy is still subordinate to the trade unions. But as for the rest of it, I can only speak for my time in office. When I was in office the fundraising was done by the party treasurers. Number 10 was not involved in the fundraising, there were no personal envoys. Now what is happening now is the subject of investigation and I don’t wish to cast stones until I know the result of that investigation.

    I know what happened before, I know it was arm’s length from Number 10. It was dealt with by the Party treasurers and I know there was a very stringent system there afterwards, not least to the Honours Scrutiny Committee to ensure that everything was proper, as I firmly believe that it was. But I don’t know what has been happening under the present government, and until I do know, I think I’m happy to leave it in the hands of those investigating it.

    ANDREW MARR:

    You’ve been pretty keen on the way David Cameron has performed so far, but is ‘hug a hoodie’ going just a little too far for you?

    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    I think you have to look at what David Cameron is seeking to achieve. He’s trying to produce a Cameron brand so that people can see that the Conservatives have changed. A long time ago, because of the success of the 1980s and the first two thirds of the 1980s were perhaps the most successful period in government for any party for a very long time, the first two thirds, perhaps up until 1990…

    ANDREW MARR:

    You were about to say 1990, that’s when you took over.

    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    Up until 1987 they were hugely successful, and I think that we have to pay a great degree of credit to that. But some of the people still look at what was appropriate in the 1980s and think it is still absolutely appropriate and nothing else is in the 1990s and in the 2000s.

    And of course the country has moved on, the world has moved on and we have to move on, and that is what David Cameron is trying to do to produce his own brand. And you can always find a single issue, if you look hard enough, that any single member of any party with any Prime Minister won’t agree with. But I think he’s moving us in the right direction.

    ANDREW MARR:

    The right direction. Sir John, thank you very much indeed.

    SIR JOHN MAJOR:

    My pleasure.