Tag: Gulf War

  • Mr Major’s Comments on British Troops – 1 February 1991

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s comments on the British troops in the Gulf, made on Friday 1st February 1991.


    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked about the impressions he formed after meeting the British troops in the gulf].

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think there were a number of things really. It was a remarkable visit and one that I am extremely glad I made. I suppose the two predominant impressions from the Gulf were firstly the sheer scale and logistics of the operation, that was very impressive indeed, when one found oneself in a helicopter above the desert for as far as you could see there was mile upon mile upon mile of tiny encampments full of activity and a tremendously long convoy on the high road heading towards Kuwait – that was a very impressive sight. And I suppose the other principal impression there was the sheer good humour and organisation of everyone who was there, it was very remarkable to see at a time of such tension.

    QUESTION:

    [Mr Major was asked if he had expected a war in the Gulf]

    PRIME MINISTER:

    The possibility was always there, we worked very hard indeed to try and find a peaceful solution, that was always our preferred ending. It was clearly necessary to deal with the quite unjustified invasion of Kuwait, there was never any doubt about that, but we hoped very much that it could be solved diplomatically, we tried for that, we hoped for that. There was always the residual doubt that it would not happen so I was prepared for what happened but I regret it.

  • Mr Major’s Doorstep Interview in London – 1 February 1991

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s doorstep interview held in London on Friday 1st February 1991.


    QUESTION:

    Could we ask you about the Gulf and South Africa, Sir? How welcoming do you think the events are in South Africa?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    It is very encouraging indeed. The steps that have been announced today are a huge step towards not just the dismantling but the absolute ending of apartheid. It has to be carried into legislation, of course, but I think everyone all around the world will want to welcome what has happened today – it is a gigantic step forward.

    QUESTION:

    Do you think that other countries, then, should move towards the ending of sanctions?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I hope they will look at that – I think they should now. I hope that will be the case in due course both in the United States and throughout the Commonwealth. A tremendous move forward has been made. Everybody wants to encourage the new South Africa and I hope in due time bring them back into the African community of nations and the world community of nations. The chance of doing that is clearly there now.

    QUESTION:

    Britain has made a particular stand on the question of South Africa and on the need to encourage South Africa to get developments. Do you think that Britain’s stand is paying off?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    Apartheid is odious and apartheid is now under sentence of death – that is very good news. What, therefore, do we now want to see? Clearly, we will want to see investment in South Africa so that the new South Africa is a prosperous place that can cope with the internal problems that it has. Everyone, I think, will wish to see that and I hope governments around the world will reflect that view.

    QUESTION:

    Do you feel that there is more Britain should be doing?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    We will certainly be discussing, when we have had a chance to examine this statement in more detail – we have only seen it thus far in our mind we need to be clear when it is going to be carried into legislation. But I think it is very likely that we will wish to discuss that with our colleagues in Europe and of course with our colleagues in the Commonwealth.

    QUESTION:

    Finally, on the Gulf, is there anything you can say about the renewed threats to British prisoners of war?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    They are deplorable, of course, but I think they illustrate something absolutely beyond a shadow of a doubt: Saddam Hussein started this war and Saddam Hussein is losing this war. That is becoming more apparent day after day after day in every aspect of the conflict. I think what he is now saying is a reflection of the fact that he knows he is losing the war.

    QUESTION:

    Is there anything more that you can do next week when you meet the President of the International Red Cross to try to put the case of Britain with regard to the treatment of the prisoners of war?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    The Red Cross are being extremely helpful. The Red Cross are very well aware of the need to ensure that the Iraqis keep to the Geneva Convention and we continually make that point with them. I do not want to prejudge what I can determine with the President of the Red Cross. I am looking forward to that meeting; I am grateful for the help they are giving us; they will, I know, continue to press for the welfare of all servicemen, both British and others, who may at present be prisoners of the Iraqis but the Iraqis have responsibilities under the Geneva Convention; they have those responsibilities and we will expect them to meet them.

  • Mr Major’s Joint Doorstep Interview with Vice-President Quayle – 31 January 1991

    Below is Mr Major’s joint press statement with United States Vice-President Dan Quayle, held in London on Thursday 31st January 1991.


    PRIME MINISTER:

    Thank you all very much for waiting. I am sorry we have kept you waiting so long. The Vice-President and I have been able to talk for a little over an hour, predominantly about the Gulf of course, but also about other matters,

    I think we are both pretty satisfied with the way things are going so far. A fortnight into the conflict, I think there is absolutely no doubt about the remarkable extent of cooperation between the United States. the British and indeed the other allies and we are all extremely pleased about that. And there was particular pleasure I think over here at the President’s State of the Union Address and his very generous words about the activities of the RAF and we were all very pleased to hear that.

    The Vice-President has had a successful day here I think and has visited Lakenheath and elsewhere and I might invite him to say something about his trip.

    MR QUAYLE:

    Thank you very much Mr Prime Minister. Let me once again just reaffirm the positive, strong cooperation that we have had between the United States and the United Kingdom. It was reaffirmed again today at Lakenheath where I visited with the spouses of a number of the troops from the United States and the United Kingdom that are deployed in the Persian Gulf.

    I enjoyed the conversation with the Prime Minister immensely, we value and respect his judgment and opinions on world affairs. We do have and continue the special relationship with the United Kingdom and I am delighted to be back once again to pay my respects to an outstanding and remarkable Prime Minister.

    QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

    QUESTION:

    Prime Minister, can you indicate for how long you can resist being provoked into a wider scale land war?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think we will have to see what happens out there. I think as you know in Khafji the Saudis are now examining the houses one by one, there is a house search going on to find out whether any Iraqis are there. There was an incursion, as you know, into Khafji by the Iraqis, it may well be that they will do the same thing again and that there will be other incursions of that sort, but we will deal with those as they arise. But the general strategy of the campaign has been pretty clear, it is pretty clear what we propose to do in future and we will stick to that.

    QUESTION:

    Vice-President, now that the difficult stage of the conflict has been entered with mounting ground casualties, how worried are you that American public opinion will stay behind supporting the war if casualties do mount, as they appear to be?

    MR QUAYLE:

    There is strong and overwhelming support for President George Bush and our policy in the Persian Gulf. The American people, perhaps contrary to international public opinion, have a great deal of patience. They support this President, they support the policy in the Persian Gulf, they support the allied effort to get Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait. We are in no hurry to engage in a ground campaign. The air campaign is going quite well and you can judge by the results that we have been successful, we have a strategy that the Prime Minister understands and knows quite well and that strategy is now being deployed, and I might say that that strategy is working.

    QUESTION:

    Can I ask you both what lessons you have drawn from the Iraqi incursion into Khafji about the fighting spirit of their soldiers and what it would mean for a land campaign?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think the first thing to say is they have clearly lost at Khafji, have they not? There was an incursion there, the Saudi, Qatari and the American troops there have driven them out. The Iraqi losses have been quite heavy and they are no longer there. So whatever one may learn about the Iraqis, one has learned a little more and that is that the Iraqis will be beaten and that I think is the lesson we were sure was there for them and it has certainly been reinforced by what has happened at Khafji over the last 36 hours or so. And I suspect if there any more incursions the same lesson will be learned again.

    MR QUAYLE:

    I would just reaffirm the fact and that is that we have been successful. Perhaps Saddam Hussein would like to commence the ground war because he has been so unsuccessful in getting any of his air assets deployed, about the only place that they are deployed right now is in Iran. They are certainly unable to have any access to the airways, we have air supremacy, that is a fact and it is a very important military fact.

    QUESTION (JOHN DRAPER, ITN):

    Can you explain what would be the role of the B52s due to be deployed in Great Britain?

    MR QUAYLE:

    I am not going to get into the actual military operations, but we are very appreciative of the continued cooperation of the United Kingdom on this and everything else, but I am not going to get into its role and mission and things of that sort.

    QUESTION:

    Perhaps Mr Major might?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    The B52s will be used as the Commanders wish them to be used and that is true of all the other aircraft in the conflict.

    QUESTION:

    Will they be armed with nuclear weapons?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    No they are not going to be armed with nuclear weapons.

    QUESTION (CNN):

    Mr Vice President, earlier today you were quoted as saying either we will continue to have Saddam or we will achieve peace. Does that mean to achieve peace Mr Saddam has to be ousted?

    MR QUAYLE:

    Has to be ousted from Kuwait, absolutely, and he is going to be ousted from Kuwait.

    QUESTION:

    From power though, will he have to be ousted from power?

    MR QUAYLE:

    I did not say ousted from power I said that he will be ousted from Kuwait, and he will be ousted from Kuwait, that is the objective and we will achieve that objective.

  • PMQT Written Answers – 31 January 1991

    Below is the text of the written answers relating to Prime Minister’s Question Time from 31st January 1991.


    PRIME MINISTER:

     

    Engagements

    Mr. Harry Greenway : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 31 January.

    The Prime Minister : This morning I presided at a meeting of the Cabinet and had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in the House, I shall be having further meetings later today.

     

    The Gulf

    Mr. Teddy Taylor : To ask the Prime Minister if he will raise at the next meeting of the European Council the contribution made by EC members to the Gulf crisis in terms of cash and resources ; and if he will make a statement.

    The Prime Minister : The majority of the European Community member states have already contributed to the multinational force in the Gulf, whether with military forces, logistical, medical, financial or other forms of assistance. We are seeking additional contributions to our costs from a number of countries, including EC members. The Community and its member states are also providing economic assistance to those countries most directly affected economically by the crisis, as well as providing substantial humanitarian assistance to alleviate the refugee problem in the region.

    Mr. Simon Hughes : To ask the Prime Minister what (a) governmental and (b) international activity, involving Her Majesty’s Government, took place before 28 January to prepare the specialist method of responding to any environmental crisis in the Gulf ; and if he will make a statement.

    The Prime Minister : The Government have responded promptly and positively to requests from the Saudi Arabian Government for expert advice and assistance following the deliberate pollution of the Gulf by Saddam Hussein. We are also in touch with other states in the region. Since the risk of conflict arose, the Government have been fully conscious of a number of possible environmental risks arising from it and has maintained close contact with the allies on all matters connected with it. It is for the Gulf states affected, drawing on the expertise on offer from the United Kingdom and the international community, to lead the response to the environmental damage that Iraq is inflicting on the region.

     

    Gas Masks (Palestinians)

    Mr. Wray : To ask the Prime Minister what representations he has made to the Israeli Prime Minister concerning the provision of gas masks to the Palestinian population in the occupied territories.

    The Prime Minister : None. On 14 January the Israeli High Court ordered the army to distribute its stock of masks to Palestinians along the green line between Israel and the occupied territories immediately, and to obtain more for the remaining residents of the west bank and Gaza. The distribution has begun. We welcome this decision.

     

    Pay Review Bodies

    Mr. Madel : To ask the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on the latest reports of the pay review bodies.

    The Prime Minister : The 1991 reports of the review bodies on the pay of the armed forces, the doctors and dentists, the professions allied to medicine, nursing staff, midwives and health visitors, and of the Top Salaries Review Body have been published today. Copies are available in the Vote Office. The Government are grateful to the members of the review bodies for the time and care which they have put into the preparation of the reports. The table shows the increases recommended by the review bodies for each group, and their cost.

    The Government accept the recommendations of the review bodies and will be implementing them in full. All the proposed improvements in pay structures, designed to assist in recruiting, retaining and motivating staff, are accepted, indeed welcomed. But the overall cost of the pay packages proposed by the review bodies is high. The cost exceeds the provision available in Departments’ spending plans for next year at a time when public expenditure is under pressure as a result of events in the Gulf.

    Accordingly, given the size of the recommended increases as well as wider economic considerations, it will be necessary to stage payment of the review bodies’ awards, except to the armed forces. When many of our armed forces are on active service, we have concluded it would not be appropriate to ask them to wait for their full pay award. For all other groups the staging will involve an increase of at least 7.5 per cent. from 1 April with the balance paid from 1 December. In consequence the full awards for all groups will be in payment before the end of this year.

    The cost of implementing the recommendations on this basis will be met from within the public expenditure planning totals published in the autumn statement. The Government recognise that the cost of the health service awards could not be met in full from present health service provision without adversely affecting services to patients. The Government will therefore provide an extra £250 million from the reserve for next year, bringing the total increase in the resources available for the national health services between 1990-91 and 1991-92 to £3.4 billion. The full increase in costs for the armed forces over the provision previously made in the defence budget will also be met from the reserve : an allocation of £70 million will be made from the reserve for this purpose.

    The specific application of this approach to the respective groups will be as follows.

    The increases recommended by the review body on the armed forces will be paid in full from 1 April 1991. The increase in the x’ factor, which reflects the special demands of service life, will be larger for women than for men and will remove all pay distinctions between them.

    The Government have decided to accept the recommendations of the review body on doctors and dentists, but to stage their implementation so that 7.5 per cent. is paid in all cases from 1 April and the remainder of the increases, ranging from 2 per cent. to 5.2 per cent. for different categories, from 1 December. Increased expenses for general medical practitioners, which are a necessary part of the cost of running a practice, will be paid in full from 1 April.

    Similarly, for nursing staff, midwives and health visitors, the Government accept the recommendations of the review body, but their implementation will be staged so that all staff will receive at least 7.5 per cent. from 1 April and the remaining 2 per cent. from 1 December. Lower-paid nursing staff, for whom the review body has recommended higher increases, will receive all but 2 per cent. from 1 April with the balance paid from 1 December.

    The Government have also decided to accept the recommendations of the review body on professions allied to medicine, but to stage their implementation so that 7.5 per cent. is paid to all from 1 April and the remaining pay increases and other additional payments are paid from 1 December.

    Groups covered by the Top Salaries Review Body will receive 7.5 per cent. from 1 April, with the remainder from 1 December. However, two-star military officers, for whom higher increases were recommended, will receive all but 2 per cent. from 1 April with the balance paid from 1 December. The new system of performance-related pay for civil servants, which the Top Salaries Review Body recommended in their report last year, will be implemented from 1 April 1991.

    The pay rates and scales resulting from the decisions will be promulgated as soon as possible for the groups concerned. Pensions will follow the rates of salary in payment.

  • PMQT – 31 January 1991

    Below is the text of Prime Minister’s Question Time from 31st January 1991.


    PRIME MINISTER

     

    Engagements

    Q1. Mr. Patchett : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 31 January.

    The Prime Minister (Mr. John Major) : This morning I presided at a meeting of the Cabinet and had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others.

    Mr. Patchett : Has the Prime Minister seen reports this morning that the Italian cargo vessel the Karin B is returning to Britain with a cargo of toxic waste? In view of the grave public anxiety on the matter, will he ensure that under no circumstances will the ship be allowed into any British port with its deadly cargo?

    The Prime Minister : I can certainly assure the hon. Gentleman that waste will be allowed into this country only if it is safe to treat it. We shall certainly apply that principle to the Karin B and its cargo.

    Sir Ian Lloyd : Does my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister agree that in the nuclear weapons age the much pilloried phrase, “Careless talk costs lives” is a dramatic understatement? Does he further agree that the intolerable position in which Admiral Sir Tom Woodward was put in a public discussion on television early yesterday morning by the right hon. Member for Chesterfield (Mr. Benn) was a serious threat, especially as the right hon. Gentleman asked that the relationship between the President of the United States and British use of nuclear weapons be brought out into the open? Does my right hon. Friend agree that that shows the importance of the existing convention which applies to the matter?

    The Prime Minister : It is an important convention. However, I did not see the interview and I should prefer not to comment too directly upon it.

    Mr. Benn : Is the Prime Minister aware that Admiral Woodward was a great deal more candid than Ministers have been about the use of nuclear weapons in the Gulf? Is he also aware that there is widespread anxiety in Britain about the extension of the war aims well beyond the United Nations objectives relating to Kuwait and about the possibility of an extension of the war? Will he welcome the initiative of the French Government in going to Tehran to see whether at this late stage some progress might be made by negotiation leading to a ceasefire?

    The Prime Minister : I repeat to the right hon. Gentleman that I did not see the interview with Admiral Woodward and I have no comment on it. On the war aims, I have made it clear consistently that our aims are those set out in the United Nations Security Council resolutions. That is and remains the position.

    Mr. Colvin : Will my right hon. Friend find time today to consider the somewhat fragile political climate in South Africa, following the welcome meeting of reconciliation between Chief Buthelezi and Mr. Nelson Mandela? What action can the Government take to encourage the nations of the world to take a more positive attitude towards South Africa to encourage that country faster and further down the road to reform which we all want to see it travel?

    The Prime Minister : I very much welcome the meeting between Chief Buthelezi and Mr. Mandela. It is an extremely welcome development. As my hon. Friend will know, the European Community nations lifted the investment sanction some time ago because of the progress that has been made. If, as I hope, further progress on dismantling apartheid is made soon, I hope that we shall see a further gesture from the European Community, the United States and the Commonwealth on lifting sanctions.

     

    Q2. Sir David Steel : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 31 January.

    The Prime Minister : I refer the right hon. Gentleman to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Sir David Steel : After the Gulf war, bearing in mind what was done after the Falklands war, will the Prime Minister consider setting up a high-level inquiry into the acquisition by Iraq of British arms and technology, including some from private companies, quangos and Government Departments, so that lessons may be learned, and so that never again will our forces be faced with an enemy armed partly by ourselves ?

    The Prime Minister : There is a considerable degree of sensitivity about the supply of arms and equipment. As the right hon. Gentleman will know, for some considerable time we have not supplied arms to Iraq for precisely that reason. We will take great care in future to ensure that we are careful about that matter.

    Sir Jim Spicer : Does my right hon. Friend agree that the record of loyalty and service to NATO of the republic of Turkey in the last 45 years, and also to the United Nations in Korea and to United Nations endeavours in the Gulf, is worthy of great praise and should be considered carefully by other NATO members and members of the European Community?

    The Prime Minister : Turkey certainly has a distinguished record in NATO, and I am happy to acknowledge that fact.

    Mr. Kinnock : Will the Prime Minister take the opportunity to confirm that any interest rate rise in Britain in response to today’s rise in German interest rates would be disastrous for industry?

    The Prime Minister : As the right hon. Gentleman knows, we will set interest rates and reduce interest rates when we think it is appropriate. As he knows, we have made our position on the subject perfectly clear. When it is appropriate and in the interests of the economy to reduce interest rates, and when we see that the reduction will be sustained, we will take action.

    Mr. Kinnock : The Government have been telling us for years that they have been curing inflation. Is not it the case that they have always made the mistake of combating inflation only with high interest rates, with the result that they have hit investment? How does the Prime Minister expect the country to become more competitive in advance of the completion of the single market if all the time he is wearing down investment, skills, training and the other things that are essential to enable Britain to compete?

    The Prime Minister : The right hon. Gentleman should know that as our inflation differential with the European Community narrows, we will be in a position to reduce interest rates. The right hon. Gentleman, who invariably advocates the cutting of interest rates, may recall that he also advocated a further cut in interest rates in 1987. Had we then followed his advice, we would have faced a far greater problem today.

    Mr. Kinnock : The Prime Minister will have great difficulty in saying to anyone that he could have greater difficulties than those caused by 1,000 redundancies a day, a reduction in output, a reduction in investment and the highest interest rates in the developed world.

    The Prime Minister : If the right hon. Gentleman is serious about Britain’s success in the 1990s, he needs to bear it in mind that we must get inflation down to the rate of our competitors. We are prepared to take action to do so. I regret that the right hon. Gentleman, as ever, wants the soft option.

     

    Q3. Mr. Cran : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 31 January.

    The Prime Minister : I refer my hon. Friend to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Cran : Does my right hon. Friend agree that the contribution made by Germany yesterday to Britain’s war expenses is extremely welcome? Can he indicate to the House whether he expects contributions from any other source?

    The Prime Minister : I certainly agree with my hon. Friend that the further contribution of £275 million from Germany is very welcome. So also is the offer to provide some military material. I spoke to Chancellor Kohl this morning and was able to thank him for the generosity of the German people.

    Mrs. Heal : Following the visit yesterday by hon. Members, all of whom happened to be women, to the wives of the service men serving in the Gulf, will the Prime Minister take the opportunity to write a letter of support to the wives, many of whom feel isolated and lonely? Will he agree to do that? Will he also agree to a delegation of the wives coming to Westminster to explain to hon. Members their difficulties and feelings while they are supporting their husbands who are serving in the Gulf ?

    The Prime Minister : I certainly agree with the hon. Lady about the remarkable contribution made by the wives of our service men. I hope shortly to have the opportunity of visiting a number of the wives in Germany and I look forward to that. I would be happy to send the letter that the hon. Lady suggests.

     

    Q4. Mr. Bowis : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 31 January.

    The Prime Minister : I refer my hon. Friend to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Bowis : Does my right hon. Friend agree that there can be few worse examples of the inhumanity of Saddam Hussein than his cruelty to the prisoners of war and their families in refusing the International Red Cross access to them? Will he do everything in his power to ensure that that access is achieved?

    The Prime Minister : I assure my hon. Friend that we are certainly doing that. The action by the Iraqis in refusing access is intolerable and unforgivable. We are in daily touch with the Red Cross in Geneva and are doing our best to support its efforts. I shall be meeting the president of the Red Cross early next week.

     

    Q5. Mr. Lewis : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 31 January.

    The Prime Minister : I refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Lewis : Does the Prime Minister share my view that it is obscene that the lives of coalition forces in the Gulf are threatened by arms and weapons probably made by their own families in their own country ? Will the right hon. Gentleman give an unequivocal assurance today that he will take Britain out of the international arms trade, which includes the training of personnel from other countries and providing technical know-how?

    The Prime Minister : The obscenity lies in Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait, and the sooner that the hon. Gentleman recognises that the better.

     

    Q6. Mr. Day : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 31 January.

    The Prime Minister : I refer my hon. Friend to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Day : Does my right hon. Friend agree that Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait was an act of naked aggression, but Israel’s occupation of the west bank and Gaza was brought about by decades of Arab intolerance of the state of Israel and that, because of those two different scenarios, there should be no linkage at any future date?

    The Prime Minister : It is clear that the situation is different because in 1967 it was Israel which was attacked. But we now have to look to the future and a solution to the Arab-Israel problem based on territory for peace. Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait has made that task much more difficult, but as I have said to the House on a number of occasions in recent weeks, we shall certainly be looking to see whether we can bring that peace forward as soon as the conflict is over.

    Mr. Molyneaux : Does the Prime Minister share my admiration for the prompt response of senior members of the Commonwealth to the invasion of Kuwait? Does he share my hope that those ties with the Commonwealth will endure long after various temporary entanglements have disappeared?

    The Prime Minister : I most certainly do, without qualification.

     

    Q7. Mr. Thorne : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 31 January.

    The Prime Minister : I refer my hon. Friend to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Thorne : As justice delayed is justice denied, will my right hon. Friend, in his usual caring fashion, be kind enough to examine the efficiency of the courts and whether it is right that people, particularly from abroad, should be obliged to wait so long for their trial? I am thinking in particular of Mrs. Dina Le Tarle, the American wife of a surgeon, aged 29, who has been prosecuted for her actions while responding to muggers on the underground. She has now been waiting three months for her trial.

    Mr. Speaker : Order. If the case is sub judice, the hon. Gentleman should bear that in mind.

    The Prime Minister : I understand the general point that my hon. Friend makes. The Government are concerned to reduce to a minimum delay in all criminal cases.

    Mr. Michael J. Martin : The Prime Minister will know that many of the soldiers who are serving well in the Gulf are in the Army because they could not get jobs in civvy street and when the Gulf war is over there will be soldiers who, unfortunately, will be unfit for Army service. Can the right hon. Gentleman guarantee them jobs in Glasgow and the north of England?

    The Prime Minister : The early part of the hon. Gentleman’s remarks will be widely resented by many of our forces in the Gulf. I heard from him no talk of employment during the 40 successive months when unemployment was falling.

     

    Q8. Mr. Page : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 31 January.

    The Prime Minister : I refer my hon. Friend to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Page : My right hon. Friend is hearing from those who wish to see extensions to the sanction period in respect of the Gulf calls to bring about a ceasefire. For the benefit of the House, will my right hon. Friend surmise why those people are trying to put our troops in extra danger by giving Saddam Hussein the breathing space to develop a nuclear weapon?

    The Prime Minister : I agree with my hon. Friend. He makes a valid point. We are not interested in a pause or a ceasefire, which would simply enable Iraq to regroup, resupply its forces and place our troops in greater peril. The conflict over Kuwait will be concluded only when all the provisions of Security Council resolution 678 have been met.

  • PMQT Written Answers – 29 January 1991

    Below is the text of the written answers relating to Prime Minister’s Question Time from 29th January 1991.


    PRIME MINISTER:

    Engagements

    Mr. Harry Greenway : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 29 January.

    The Prime Minister : This morning I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in the House, I shall be having further meetings later today.

    Gulf War

    Mr. Latham : To ask the Prime Minister whether he will make a statement on the current situation in the Gulf.

    The Prime Minister : The allied air campaign is proceeding satisfactorily and continues to erode Iraq’s military capability. The effectiveness of the campaign so far is amply demonstrated by the very few and unsuccessful deployments of the Iraqi air forces, but there is still some way to go before our aim of implementing United Nations Security Council resolutions can be achieved. We condemn Iraq’s use of missiles in indiscriminate attacks against civilian populations in Israel and Saudi Arabia. We also deplore Iraq’s wanton destruction of the environment of the middle east by deliberately pumping oil into the Gulf.

    Mr. Sillars : To ask the Prime Minister what co-ordination and consultation arrangements exist between allied Governments to ensure political control of the military forces engaged in the Gulf war.

    The Prime Minister : The aims of the coalition forces are those laid down by the United Nations Security Council. Military forces in the coalition remain under the ultimate control of their national governments who are maintaining close contact with each other.

  • PMQT – 29 January 1991

    Below is the text of Prime Minister’s Question Time from 29th January 1991.


    PRIME MINISTER

     

    Engagements

    Q1. Mr. Cran : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 29 January.

    The Prime Minister (Mr. John Major) : This morning I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in the House, I shall be having further meetings later today.

    Mr. Cran : Would my right hon. Friend care to take this opportunity to assure foreign business men and tourists–and indeed, almost everyone else who comes to the United Kingdom–that they have been grossly misled into thinking that coming into the United Kingdom is a dangerous occupation? Would he confirm that using British aircraft and British airports is almost as safe as using those anywhere else in the world and that stringent security arrangements are in place? Will he confirm that they will stay in place as long as the threats, to which we are accustomed, continue?

    The Prime Minister : I am happy to give my hon. Friend that assurance. A great deal of effort has gone into ensuring that our aircraft and all other modes of transport are entirely safe. My hon. Friend is quite right. There is no question of people in this country being intimidated by terrorism. I hope very much that the usual clutch of visitors will come to this country, where they will find the usual warm welcome.

    Mr. Kinnock : Is it not clear to the right hon. Gentleman that, with unemployment rising, and output and investment falling, his interest rate policies have pushed Britain back into slump? Will he now change those policies before he inflicts further damage on British jobs, on British enterprise and on British competitiveness?

    The Prime Minister : I must say to the right hon. Gentleman that the thrust of policy is geared to dealing with the principal economic problem in front of us–the reduction of inflation–so that the economy may again begin to grow. That is the thrust of policy and it will continue to be so.

    Mr. Kinnock : Can the Prime Minister tell us how on earth cutting investment combats inflation? Is it not obvious to him that weakening British industry now will weaken the British economy in the future?

    The Prime Minister : As the Confederation of British Industry said yesterday in its report, it is encouraging that most employers expect to maintain spending on innovation and to maintain or increase spending on training. The right hon. Gentleman must recognise the substantive point that what really destroys the effectiveness of investment in this country is inflation, when it gets out of hand and when people can see that investment will not yield a proper reward.

    Mr. Kinnock : Does the Prime Minister acknowledge that, if British industry is to begin recovery in the course of this year, he must cut interest rates now and find a sensible way of restraining consumption? What is happening now is ruinous.

    The Prime Minister : When it is appropriate to reduce interest rates, people do so. I remind the right hon. Gentleman that he was urging us to join the exchange rate mechanism when the exchange rate was DM 2.95. We will reduce interest rates when it is appropriate to do so.

     

    Baltic States

    Q2. Mr. Hunter : To ask the Prime Minister if he will make a further statement on the Soviet Union’s handling of the Baltic states and their bid for independence.

    The Prime Minister : We have made our concern known very clearly to the Soviet authorities, in particular about the actions of Soviet troops in Vilnius and Riga and their tragic consequences. We believe that the Soviet authorities should withdraw their troops and negotiate with the elected authorities in the Baltic states on their aspirations.

    Mr. Hunter : In the light of the Soviet Union’s oppressive policies in the Baltic states, will my right hon. Friend confirm that one of the factors that will determine future United Kingdom aid will be the Soviet Union’s acknowledgement of the Baltic states people’s right to self- determination?

    The Prime Minister : We have always supported the right of the people of the Baltic states to decide their future status through negotiation with the Soviet Union. That will continue to guide our policy in the future.

    Mrs. Margaret Ewing : Is the Prime Minister aware that President Landsbergis will host a conference entitled “a free Lithuania in Europe” between 7 and 16 February in Vilnius and that, concurrent with that, he will conduct a national poll to establish changes within the constitution of the state of Lithuania? Does the Prime Minister agree that such a conference would be an ideal opportunity for an all-party delegation from the House to visit the Baltic states to see what is happening? Will the Prime Minister consider such a delegation?

    The Prime Minister : I am grateful to the hon. Lady for her suggestion. That is a matter for hon. Members, not for me.

    Mr. Wilkinson : Will my right hon. Friend make it perfectly plain to the Soviet authorities that aid to the USSR as a unitary state is conditional on the maintenance of human rights and democratic freedoms within the constituent republics as they now are?

    The Prime Minister : I have previously done that, as my hon. Friend will know. I must add that, over the past few years, we have invested a great deal of time and effort, as has the United States, in improving the relationship and atmosphere with the Soviet Union. I hope that we can suspend judgment on some activities until we have further information. What appears to be happening in Vilnius and Riga is quite unacceptable, but I hope that we can suspend judgment until we see matters more clearly. Yet again, we make it clear to the Soviet Union that our support for Mr. Gorbachev is support for him and his reforms, not for repression.

     

    Engagements

    Q3. Mr. Dunnachie : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 29 January.

    The Prime Minister : I refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Dunnachie : Is the Prime Minister aware that there is total support for his concern for the welfare of British troops in the Gulf? Will he put his money where his mouth is and give councils the money that they need to relieve their troops in the Gulf of the poll tax burden?

    The Prime Minister : As I indicated to the House the other day, authority already exists for local authorities to relieve troops during their period there.

    Mr. Cormack : Will my right hon. Friend have a word with the chairman of the Post Office this afternoon about the supply of the blue letter forms on which families write to forces in the Gulf? Is he aware that families of the Staffordshire regiment have been complaining that the forms are not readily available in many rural post offices?

    The Prime Minister : I can say to my hon. Friend that more have been distributed because of concern about that matter. About 600 sacks of mail are being moved each day to and from the Gulf. It is a massive operation. Hon. Members will have seen on television some of the difficulties that there are in delivering it.

     

    Q4. Mr. Corbyn : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 29 January.

    The Prime Minister : I refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Corbyn : Will the Prime Minister spend some time today considering the effects of 13 days of war in the Gulf, the deaths of service people, the massive losses of Iraqi civilians, the environmental destruction throughout the region, and the loss of some civil liberties in this country? Will the right hon. Gentleman accordingly join King Hussein of Jordan and the Pope in calling for a ceasefire in the war to enable the problems of the region to be addressed peacefully, as they will all be there at the end of the fighting?

    The Prime Minister : It was not the allies who ensured that the problems of the region could not be solved peacefully ; it was Saddam Hussein. It is perfectly clear what needs to be done before they can be addressed peacefully.

     

    Q5. Dr. Michael Clark : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 29 January.

    The Prime Minister : I refer my hon. Friend to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Dr. Clark : Will my right hon.Friend confirm that the coalition forces in the Gulf are striving to uphold the United Nations resolutions and that it is hoped, therefore, that as many members of the United Nations as possible will contribute towards this effort? Does he agree that there is every indication at the present time that this will happen, and that it is to be hoped that our friends and allies, particularly those that have not sent forces to the Gulf, will recognise their responsibilities and find ways of contributing to the war effort?

    The Prime Minister : I agree with my hon. Friend. A number of Governments have already made financial contributions towards the cost of the forces in the Gulf and a number of others have announced their intention to do so. I understand that Germany has made such an announcement just today. We are grateful for that and we will be in touch with the Governments concerned.

    Mr. Ashdown : Will the Prime Minister confirm that the objective of the coalition forces in the Gulf remains to secure the liberation, peace and stability of Kuwait and does not extend to the occupation and dismemberment of a defeated Iraq?

    The Prime Minister : I am happy to confirm our war aims to the right hon. Gentleman. We have made them clear consistently. They are those set out in the United Nations Security Council resolutions. They have been and remain the aims of the allies.

     

    North Yorkshire

    Q6. Mr. Gregory : To ask the Prime Minister if he will make an official visit to North Yorkshire.

    The Prime Minister : I am making plans for a series of visits to all parts of the country and very much hope to include North Yorkshire among them.

    Mr. Gregory : Will my right hon. Friend encourage those banks and building societies that are offering mortgages to home owners in North Yorkshire to extend the facility to European currency unit mortgages, thereby reducing the interest rate by some 3 per cent?

    The Prime Minister : Banks and building societies have the capacity to do that at present. It is a matter for their judgment whether they do so and for their mortgage borrowers whether they seek such a facility.

    Mr. O’Brien : In the course of his visit to North Yorkshire, will the Prime Minister take note of the importance of the link from the A1 servicing North Yorkshire to the M1 to ease the congestion of traffic on the A642 through Oulton and Rothwell?

    The Prime Minister : I will do better than that ; I will tell my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Transport what the hon. Gentleman has said.

    Mr. Dickens : Prime Minister, are you aware – [Hon. Members :– “No.”] Are you aware–

    Mr. Speaker : Order. I have sympathy for the hon. Member. Give him a fair hearing.

    Mr. Dickens : Prime Minister, are you aware–

    Mr. Speaker : Why not proceed with the question? I think we have got the first bit.

    Mr. Dickens : Is the Prime Minister aware that my eldest son, Clive, signed on for the Gulf last week, and this week

    Mr. Speaker : Order. Did he do it in Yorkshire, that is the point?

    Mr. Dickens : Is this not more commendable than the behaviour of a lot of yellow-bellied Labour MPs?

    Mr. Speaker : The hon. Gentleman absolutely spoiled a good opportunity.

     

    Engagements

    Q7. Mr. Skinner : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 29 January.

    The Prime Minister : I refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Skinner : When the Prime Minister is travelling around North Yorkshire, will he pay a visit to York and take note that the Conservative club is having a closing-down sale because it has gone bankrupt as a result of the Government’s business rate having increased from £5,000 to £15,000? Is it a Government policy to achieve a classless society by closing down Tory clubs in marginal seats? However, every cloud has a silver lining. When Labour comes into power we shall abolish the poll tax and there will be jobs in York, Derbyshire and everywhere else in Britain.

    The Prime Minister : But not, I think, for most people working today, for they will have long since retired.

     

    Q8. Mr. Holt : To ask the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 29 January.

    The Prime Minister : I refer my hon. Friend to the reply that I gave some moments ago.

    Mr. Holt : Is my right hon. Friend aware that this year the Northern regional health authority is receiving the largest sum that it has ever had? That is welcome news in the north of England. The 10.2 per cent. increase over last year means that the people of the north of England are getting a marvellous deal from the Government. In particular there will be the opportunity for increased capital investment in a new hospital in my constituency for which we have waited for over 10 years.

    The Prime Minister : I am pleased to hear that. I am always pleased when my hon. Friend is pleased. He is a doughty fighter for the north and has been for many years.

    Ms. Abbott : Will the Prime Minister confirm that there is nothing explicit in the appropriate United Nations resolutions that authorises an allied invasion of Iraq? Does he accept that although there is a widespread consensus in the House and internationally that Saddam Hussein must leave Kuwait, there is no such consensus for an allied invasion of Iraq to smash its military machine, with all the casualties and damage to Iraq’s people and infrastructure that would result?

    The Prime Minister : Resolution 678 authorises all necessary means to implement the objective of freeing Kuwait and restoring peace and security to the area. At this stage it is impossible to determine in detail precisely what that may mean. We shall need to judge that in the light of circumstances and we shall judge our actions against the security council resolutions.

    Mr. Bob Cryer (Bradford, South) : On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, I wonder whether you have had a request from the Secretary of State for the Environment to make a statement about possible cuts in fire service provision which are the subject of an enormous lobby today by firemen and women worried about the cuts imposed by the Government on fire services?

    Mr. Speaker : I have had no such request.

  • Mr Major’s Commons Statement on the Gulf War – 21 January 1991

    Below is the text of Mr Major’s House of Commons statement on the Gulf War made on 21st January 1991.


    PRIME MINISTER

    The Prime Minister (Mr. John Major) I beg to move, That this House expresses its full support for British forces in the Gulf and their contribution to the implementation of United Nations resolutions by the multinational force, as authorised by United Nations Security Council Resolution 678.

    It is of course essential that the House should be fully informed of events in the Gulf and have the opportunity to debate them. With this in mind, I can assure the House that my right hon. Friends the Foreign and Defence Secretaries will make regular statements as events unfold, and there will be contacts through the usual channels to arrange appropriate debates.

    This is the first time that the House has debated the situation since the start of hostilities on 17 January, but it is the third occasion on which I have spoken about the Gulf situation in the past week. I shall therefore be brief. This is an occasion for hon. Members to express their views and then to vote on a substantive motion.

    We did not want this conflict. We tried hard, very hard, to avoid it. We failed because – to keep his spoils – Saddam Hussein was prepared for conflict. Because he made his decision, we were thereupon forced to ours. We are determined to give our forces every ounce of support to ensure that Iraq is defeated and the United Nations Security Council’s resolutions are implemented in full. Nothing more and nothing less will suffice.

    It is as well to be aware what our forces face. They face an enemy that, having invaded Kuwait, is now well dug in; that has established extremely strong defensive positions, manned by many hundreds of thousands of his forces; that is equipped with thousands of tanks and artillery pieces, together with substantial numbers of aircraft and helicopters and anti-aircraft defences; and that has some of the best equipped and most experienced units of Saddam Hussein’s armed forces, the Republican Guard, held in reserve on the borders of Iraq and Kuwait. These forces are supported by an elaborate war machine.

    Throughout the past decade, Saddam Hussein has starved his country of economic resources precisely to build up that military machine. It has sophisticated military communications. It has missiles, and it has chemical and biological weapons that Saddam Hussein has threatened to use. As we well know, he has not scrupled to use chemical weapons in the past, even against his own people.

    The conclusion to be drawn is clear. We should not for one second underestimate the scale and difficulty of the task which confronts our forces. Nor should we underestimate the time which it may take to complete this matter. We have deliberately set ourselves the aims of keeping casualties to a minimum, both among our forces and among the civilian populations of Iraq and Kuwait and of avoiding damage to sites of religious and cultural significance.

    Mr. Ken Livingstone (Brent, East) Will the Prime Minister give way?

    Mr. Tam Dalyell (Linlithgow) Will the Prime Minister give way?

    The Prime Minister In a moment, I shall give way to the hon. Gentlemen.

    We must recognise that, by introducing these constraints, we are bound to lengthen the conflict. I am sure that that is right. The House should recognise what we are doing: by first destroying his air defences, we seek to save ourselves many casualties in any subsequent land battle. I give way to the hon. Member for Brent, East (Mr. Livingstone).

    Mr. Livingstone Has the Prime Minister had any estimate from his advisers about the level of civilian casualties in Iraq?

    The Prime Minister I am going to deal precisely with that point in the next few moments.

    Mr. Dalyell Will the Prime Minister give way?

    The Prime Minister I undertook the other day to give way to the hon. Gentleman and, regretfully, did not. If I may, at the conclusion of this point on casualties I most certainly will give way to him.

    We have heard very little from Iraq so far on the subject of casualties. I will tell the House why I believe that is. I believe that it is because our efforts to avoid harm to innocent civilians have so far been successful. The figures of tens of thousands of civilian casualties quoted by some anti-war groups seem to be entirely fictitious. There is no evidence for those claims. The evidence is entirely to the contrary.

    Mr. Dalyell While accepting that Saddam Hussein, probably on purpose, placed his missile boosting factory near to Najaf and near Karbala; because of Karbala’s associations with the grandson of the prophet and because Najaf is the seat of the Islamic university and the spiritual leader of the Shiahs, the Ayatollah Khoi He Marje, is it not important that, as far as possible, they should not be damaged?

    Can the Prime Minister say something about the nuclear destruction? After all that has been said about Chernobyl in this House, when we talk about damage to nuclear installations, do we mean power stations, research facilities, cooling or what? Could we have the facts?

    The Prime Minister My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Defence will deal particularly with the latter point in his reply. I reassure the hon. Gentleman on the former point that very clear instructions have gone to our troops to avoid sites of religious and cultural interest. That has been so since the beginning of this conflict and remains the case.

    If I may, I shall return to the question of injuries. Although injuries on both sides so far have been relatively few, no one should imagine that this war will be an easy or painless business. There may well be times in the days and weeks ahead when we shall all need to bear bad news with fortitude.

    Against that background, the first priority of the multinational force has been to engage and destroy military targets in Iraq and Kuwait through a massive air campaign. The targets in Iraq are chosen for one of two reasons – either because they are supporting the military occupation of Kuwait, or because they are of strategic importance. They include the Iraqi command and control system, communications, airfields, aircraft, missile sites, nuclear, chemical and biological sites, and other targets that enable Iraq to make war. Success in this air campaign will make it impossible for Iraq over time to sustain its forces in Kuwait, which will then become far more vulnerable to attack from the air and from land.

    Mr. David Winnick (Walsall, North) Would it not be appropriate at this stage to tell the House that the International Red Cross will be asked by the allied Governments to make urgent inquiries about the position of allied prisoners of war? Would it not also be appropriate for the allied Governments to make it perfectly clear that, if any ill treatment and worse is given to allied prisoners of war in defiance of the Geneva convention, those who carry out such treatment will be held personally responsible and will not be able to get off later by saying that they were given instructions? Nuremberg dealt with that.

    The Prime Minister The hon. Gentleman is entirely right. I will be dealing specifically with that point, and with the news that we all heard this morning, later in my speech.

    At present, the air campaign is still in progress, and, because there are many targets to be attacked, it will continue for some time. No one expects it to end speedily; certainly I do not. While it is clear that Iraqi air defences have been considerably weakened, in no sense have they been eliminated. As more and more military targets in Iraq are destroyed, the weight of the air campaign will shift increasingly to attacks on Iraqi ground forces in and around Kuwait.

    Mr. Tony Banks (Newham, North-West) Will the Prime Minister give way?

    The Prime Minister If the hon. Gentleman will forgive me, I will make some progress. Many hon. Members wish to speak in this afternoon’s debate.

    Because of the attacks against Israel and Saudi Arabia over the past two days, a particular effort has been devoted to eliminating Iraq’s Scud missile delivery systems, both fixed sites and mobile launchers. General Schwarzkopf has assessed that some 16 mobile launchers have been destroyed, but we estimate that a significant number still remain. The hunt for them goes on by day and by night, and will continue.

    An especially important part in the air campaign has been played by RAF Tornado and Jaguar ground attack aircraft, supported by VC 1Os and Victor tanker aircraft. They have attacked large numbers of targets in western, central and south-eastern Iraq and in Kuwait. They have concentrated in particular on low-level attacks at night on highly defended airfields, using the JP233 runway cratering weapon, and have done considerable damage. The nature of these attacks makes them particularly hazardous, and they have been carried out with great skill and bravery.

    One striking feature of the air campaign has been the way in which the air forces of seven nations have successfully worked together. The United States has made by far the largest contribution, but the United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, France, Canada and Italy have all been involved.

    In relation to the number of sorties flown – and by all historical precedents – the number of losses so far has been remarkably small, with 17 aircraft lost. Sadly, these have included three RAF Tornados lost in action, whose crews are missing. The House will be aware that Iraqi television apparently showed seven captured airmen yesterday, among whom seem to be the crew of one of our Tornados. Such broadcasts themselves are wholly objectionable in every respect.

    Today, there has been a reported threat to use captured airmen as human shields. Such action would be inhuman, illegal and totally contrary to the third Geneva convention. The convention expressly provides that prisoners of war shall be evacuated as soon as possible after their capture to camps situated far enough from the combat zone for them to be out of danger. It expressly prohibits the sending of a prisoner of war to an area where he may be exposed to fire, or his detention there, and forbids the use of the presence of prisoners of war to render points or areas immune from military operations.

    There is no doubt about Iraq’s obligations under the Geneva convention. I can assure the House that we have reminded Iraq very forcefully indeed of its obligations under that convention. My hon. and learned Friend the Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office, summoned the Iraqi ambassador once again this morning to register beyond doubt what our views are in this matter. I remind the Iraqis that they are bound to give us the names of any prisoners that they take and to notify the International Red Cross and provide it with access. They are also bound to grant those taken prisoner all their rights under the convention. We shall hold them to that completely.

    We have already asked the International Red Cross to seek access at the earliest opportunity to the two RAF aircrew apparently being held. Meanwhile, I am sure that the whole House joins me in expressing sympathy to the families of those air crews of all nationalities who are unaccounted for. We can only guess at the distress that their families must feel at present.

    Mr. Roger Gale (Thanet, North) Will my right hon. Friend make it absolutely plain that, if war crimes are committed, those responsible will be held to account after the war is over?

    The Prime Minister I can absolutely reaffirm that point. That is most certainly the position.

    While the air campaign goes ahead, we and our allies have continued to build up our ground forces and ready them for their part in liberating Kuwait. This calls for a massive logistics exercise. On average, over 3,000 tonnes of freight is arriving in the Gulf every day in support of British forces. The way in which these vast amounts of supplies and equipment have been brought to the area and then channelled to our forces can already be credited as one of the remarkable successes of this campaign.

    So, too, can the activities of the Royal Navy. It continues to patrol the waters of the Gulf on anti-aircraft picket duty and to play a vital part in enforcing sanctions against Iraq, in escorting shipping and in keeping the shipping lanes free from mines. It has been responsible for challenging more than 2,800 ships and boarding 36 of them, as well as discovering and destroying a number of mines.

    I pay tribute also to the many civilians who are playing a crucial part in the support for the multinational force in Saudi Arabia, among them those employed by British companies there. The way in which they have stayed at their posts and continued their work deserves our whole-hearted congratulations.

    On Friday, I spoke directly to the commander of the British forces in the middle east, General de la Billiere, and was able to brief him on the tremendous support which there is in this country for our forces. In return, he was able to give me a very good report of their morale and their state of readiness. He left me in no doubt about his confidence in the outcome. Our forces want to get the job done and to get home to their families just as soon as they can. Our thoughts are very much with those families, both here and in Germany. More than any of us, they live with the war, day in and day out, and with the constant worry about the safety of those they love. They deserve and will have all the support that we can give them.

    One most disturbing development in this conflict has been the Iraqi missile attacks on population centres in Israel. Such attacks are deplorable – utterly deplorable and wholly unforgivable. They would be so against a belligerent, but they are even more so against a country which is not even a party to this particular conflict. We know why it has been done. We know what Saddam Hussein wants. We understand the cynical ploy. He wishes to draw Israel fully into the war in the hope of inflaming Arab opinion, breaking the multinational coalition and inciting a holy war. He will fail. He will not break the coalition in the Gulf against his invasion of Kuwait.

    I believe that he wholly underestimates the cohesion and resolve of the international forces. There is no indication at all of any weakening of the will of our Arab allies. They remain determined to carry forward and sustain the campaign against Saddam Hussein, until he and his forces leave Kuwait, either voluntarily or as a broken-backed, defeated military machine. It is their choice.

    Mr. Alex Salmond (Banff and Buchan) rose –

    The Prime Minister Will the hon. Gentleman forgive me? I wish to make a little progress.

    I do not believe that that will change, because our Arab allies understand the threat that Saddam Hussein represents to the interests of the Arab countries. They know this, too: no one has been responsible for the deaths of more Muslims in Iran, Kuwait and Iraq than Saddam Hussein.

    Every Government have the right to self-defence, and no one can take that away. But we have urged on the Israeli Government the importance, if at all possible, of not granting Saddam Hussein his objective of involving Israel in a conflict which is exclusively about his occupation of Kuwait and nothing else. The remarkable restraint which Israel has shown so far is a sign of strength, and not weakness and will be widely recognised as such throughout the world. I hope that the American decision to send Patriot missiles to Israel will be further reassurance to it, especially after the Patriot’s splendid performance against the Scud missiles.

    Mr. George Galloway (Glasgow, Hillhead) It is being widely speculated, especially in the United States, that a deal has been struck with Israel: that, in exchange for it not getting involved in the war, America will soft-pedal on European efforts to bring Israel to the negotiating table after the war is over. Will the Prime Minister give us an assurance that, notwithstanding Israel’s decision so far not to retaliate, the British Government’s determination that Israel must come to the negotiating table eventually with the Palestinians and must grant them their rights of self-determination is unmoved by current events around that subject?

    The Prime Minister There is no such deal, and I shall come to the British Government’s position in a short while.

    There is one aspect of the conflict to which I want to run – the very real threat from terrorism. We are dealing with a vicious enemy, and we have learnt that his threats must be taken seriously. There is therefore a risk of terrorist action in this country, of terrorist attacks against British premises and communities abroad, and a more general threat to air travellers. We must recognise and take account of that.

    To counter that, the Government have taken several steps to protect people. One hundred and thirty members of the Iraqi community suspected of readiness to engage in terrorist acts have been deported or detained. Security has been tightened at airports, Government offices and other public places, as well as at embassies and high commissions abroad. We are also encouraging other countries to improve airport security. The dangers are considerable; everyone will need to be vigilant.

    Mr. Ken Eastham (Manchester, Blackley) Will the Prime Minister give way?

    The Prime Minister Will the hon. Gentleman forgive me? Many hon. Members wish to speak.

    In the days and weeks ahead, there will undoubtedly be many calls for a pause in military operations to enable negotiations to take place. It will be said that negotiations should be given another chance and that compromises should be explored. We do not wish the conflict to continue a day longer than necessary. We do not wish to risk the lives of our forces if implementation of the Security Council resolution can be achieved by peaceful means, but I must say to the House that the Government do not favour such a pause. A pause in the period up to 15 January was one thing, but a pause after 15 January is quite another. Our forces are now engaged. Our prime consideration must be to protect them and to avoid any unnecessary casualties, and that we shall do.

    We cannot agree to any suspension of hostilities, which would allow Saddam Hussein to regroup and strengthen his position, simply in the hope that that might lead to negotiations on the basis of some vague promise about his intentions. Hostilities cannot end – or pause – until we know that all Iraqi forces are out of Kuwait. There can be no other basis on which we can ever agree to explore any proposals for peace: once again, it is in Saddam Hussein’s hands.

    Mr. Anthony Beaumont-Dark (Birmingham, Selly Oak) Does my right hon. Friend accept that the country and the House agree that Saddam Hussein must be removed from Kuwait? How much safer will we be if this evil man decides to withdraw his forces from Kuwait and regroups within Iraq’s borders? Is it not a fact that our argument is not with the Iraqi people but that, as long as a man as evil as Saddam Hussein stays in power, we can never hope for peace? If we do not beat this regime now, we shall have to beat it in two years’ time. Will we chase him out of office, or will we allow him to withdraw when he is beaten in Kuwait?

    The Prime Minister We would need, of course, to be perfectly clear that there was no threat to Kuwait. That is absolutely clear under the Security Council resolutions, which we propose to implement in full.

    Even while we are engaged in a conflict which may last for some considerable time to come, we are already giving thought to what might lie at the end of it: in particular, future security arrangements in the area, which will avoid any repetition of Saddam Hussein’s aggression.

    Clearly, it if for the Arab Governments themselves to give a lead in devising such arrangements and in providing the forces to sustain them. The Gulf states are far from reaching conclusions about this yet, but they need to be given attention now, so that, when Saddam Hussein is defeated, the necessary arrangements can be instituted rapidly and effectively.

    Those arrangements will almost certainly involve a contribution from countries outside the area: and if the Gulf states wish it, we will be ready to play our part. There are a number of options which will need to be carefully considered. They include guarantees, the pre-positioning of equipment, visits and exercises by military units and the continued stationing in the area of naval and air forces. I see no circumstances in which we would envisage the permanent stationing of ground forces in the area.

    Mr. Cryer Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

    The Prime Minister If the hon. Gentleman will forgive me, I shall make a little more progress.

    We shall play our full part, too, in the vigorous efforts to solve the Arab-Israel problem which the international community will need to renew once the war is over and Saddam Hussein is out of Kuwait. This will be crucial to the search for stability in the region as a whole. We must recognise that what Saddam Hussein has done by invading Kuwait and now by attacking Israel has made a solution harder to achieve, but I believe that, once the war is won, there will be a general recognition by all parties to the Arab-Israel dispute that the time has come for some new thinking. We shall do everything we can to promote this.

    At the end of the first few days of the conflict, we can be well satisfied with what has been achieved. Our forces have performed effectively and bravely. The air campaign has caused significant damage to Iraq’s massive war machine. Casualties and losses have been kept down. The international coalition has held together well.

    By any yardstick, it has been a good start. There is no doubt about the outcome. As every day passes, it becomes clearer that Saddam Hussein cannot win this conflict, but there is still some considerable way to go before he has lost it. It is important only that he should not doubt our resolve. He should have no such false assurance. What he should have is the absolute certainty that our forces have the total support of the House as they risk their lives in a just and necessary conflict.

  • Mr Major’s Doorstep Interview on the Gulf War – 20 January 1991

    Below is Mr Major’s doorstep interview given outside Church at Chequers on Sunday 20th January 1991.


    QUESTION:

    I would just like to get your view on the Patriots sent to Israel – what is your reaction to that?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    Let me just say a word about last night’s activity.

    The weather, as you may have heard, was not terribly helpful and conducive last night to our operations. Nonetheless, there were a very large number of sorties again and preliminary reports would seem to indicate that they were very successful.

    What is clear is that this continual day-and-night bombardment of the Iraqi war machine is gradually beginning to damage the destructive capacity that it has and I suspect this phase of the war will continue for a considerable period of time. It certainly seems to me the right way to proceed.

    I am pleased that last night there were no further attacks on Israel and I think it is entirely right of the Israeli Government to have shown the restraint that they have and I commend them upon that – I think it is an act of considerable statesmanship to have done so. They are now, as you may know, going to have some more Patriot defensive missiles with American support and I hope that will give them a greater degree of comfort against the wholly unprovoked and unjustified attacks that they face.

    QUESTION:

    Are we talking about a war of weeks or months, Prime Minister?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    It is impossible to say, isn’t it? One can never be quite sure how these events will fall out. I would imagine it would be a war of quite a few number of weeks but how far that will extend, it is too early to say.

    QUESTION:

    Are you encouraged by opinion polls showing a large measure of support for your policy?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think there is a very considerable amount of support for the general policy of the United Nations, for the Allied policy. I think there is a very great understanding of the nature of the regime in Iraq, what it has done, potentially what it could do and, of course, the sort of activities we have seen in the last few days with the wholly unprovoked attacks on large civilian centres in Israel will reinforce that support, I believe. Yes, I am very encouraged by it.

    QUESTION:

    Prime Minister, these Patriots that have gone to Israel, are they going to be simply a comfort for Israel or are they going to provide real protection? Have they sent enough?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think they are going to provide some very substantial protection for Israel, most certainly. They are a very formidable defensive weapon and they are in the hands of people who know how to use them so I think it is a wise policy to have sent them and I think they will be a very considerable comfort to Israel. I am delighted it has happened.

    QUESTION:

    And as you say, you welcome Israel’s continued restraint.

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think it is remarkable. I am absolutely delighted with it. I urged the Israeli Government to restrain; thus far, they have done so. I think that is entirely right. I hope they will find themselves able to continue to do that.

    QUESTION:

    Prime Minister, is the war just about to enter a much more bloody phase with the attacks on troops at the front?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think it is difficult to say. The war phase will continue in terms of the attacks on airfields and military establishments for a little while yet – it is impossible to say how long – but of course, it is also necessary to weaken the Iraqi war machine in other ways and therefore it will be necessary to attack their key troops. That is absolutely necessary. We want this war to end as satisfactorily and as speedily as possible and our commanders in the field have the authority to make the appropriate attacks – and they will continue to have that authority.

    QUESTION:

    Do you think public support for the war may start to diminish if we start getting a lot more casualties?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think the public are very well aware of what is at stake in this war. The degree of support there is at the moment is absolutely remarkable. I hope and expect that that degree of support will remain.

    QUESTION:

    Can we take it from what you are saying, Prime Minister, that we can expect the ground war to start any time now?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    No. I have nothing whatsoever to say about that; absolutely nothing whatsoever to say about that.

    QUESTION:

    Can I ask you, finally, how you heard about the Patriots being sent to Israel?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    We heard through the open line from the White House. We heard that some time ago.

    Thank you all very much indeed!

  • Mr Major’s Doorstep Interview on the Gulf War – 19 January 1991

    Below is Mr Major’s doorstep interview given in London on Saturday 19th January 1991.


    PRIME MINISTER:

    Good Morning. I thought I would just try and bring you up-to-date with some of the things that have been happening this morning and then I will endeavour to answer any questions you may have in a few moments.

    I think the matter that has been concerning us most over the last few hours has been the second missile attack on Israel from Iraq. I think it is extremely deplorable, unforgivable in any sense, that this particular attack has taken place. I think it draws a very sharp contrast between the nature of conflict that we perceive and the nature of conflict that Saddam Hussein has in mind. It is very noticeable that the allied forces have been using precision bombing techniques, and often their pilots have gone to some personal risk to avoid civilian injury and to concentrate on military targets.

    By contrast, of course, Saddam Hussein has now twice sent extremely dangerous weapons into the middle of a built-up area where there are a large number of civilians in a country that is not a party to this particular conflict. I think that is quite literally an act of terror and will be seen as such.

    I have sent two messages to Prime Minister Shamir over the last few hours: firstly, to express my sympathy for this second outrageous attack; and secondly, to say that I hope, even despite this second provocation, that it would be an act of great statesmanship if Israel did not retaliate, I think it would be seen as a sign of great strength and not weakness. And he will know of course that the allied forces are seeking to find and destroy those Scud missile launchers as an act of immediate priority and that of course will continue.

    You may care to know that the Foreign Office summoned the Iraqi Ambassador this morning, firstly to indicate clearly our total sense of outrage at the activities of the Iraqis in launching these missiles, and secondly of course to remind the Iraqis of their obligations under the Geneva Convention in terms of prisoners of war. And we asked specifically for an assurance from the Iraqis that any prisoners of war would be granted all that is entitled to them under the Geneva Convention and that we would be informed at an early date of any prisoners they may have. I hope and expect that to happen and we will continue to press the Iraqis to make sure that it does.

    I had a conversation last evening with our Commander in the Middle East, General Sir Peter de la Billiere. It was a lengthy conversation, I spoke to him firstly to let him know of the state of opinion in the United Kingdom and the enormous support there was here at home and in Parliament for the activities of his men out there in the Gulf and to express my admiration particularly for the way in which the RAF pilots and back-up crews had performed their duties over recent days. Sir Peter briefed me on precisely what was going on out there, reassured me about the morale of the troops, and it was a most useful and worthwhile conversation. I expect to be in contact with him regularly over the period of the next few days and I know he will also be having conversations with the Secretary of State for Defence, Tom King.

    At the end of the first few days of this conflict, I think we can say that it has gone satisfactorily. You will have seen for yourselves the nature of the conflict and the extent of success that we have had, I think all that is very satisfactory. But I think it does have to be seen against the sheer size and scale of the war machine that Iraq has assembled over the period of the last decade. Despite all the damage that has been done, there is a great deal still that needs to be done. They have a very substantial military arsenal, a large number of planes, a considerable amount of armour, a large number of men, very substantial and sophisticated equipment and telecommunications installations. The air attacks upon them have been very successful thus far and I anticipate that they will continue for some time to come.

    It has been a good start, undoubtedly, but there is a very considerable amount still to be done. What I think is becoming totally clear, clearer as hour succeeds hour, is that Iraq cannot win this conflict but there is still some considerable way to go before they have lost.

    QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS:

    QUESTION (Michael Brunson, ITN):

    Prime Minister, you will have heard that Mr Arens said that Israel will retaliate. Do you understand that and when you talk of restraint would you accept that they may want to take some limited military action of their own?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    Of course I understand that. The provocation that has been offered to the state of Israel over the last two days could hardly be over-stated. On two occasions they have had a missile attack whilst they are not a combatant in this particular war and in the midst of a civilian area. The state of Israel have a perfect right in international law to respond and I think their restraint thus far has been admirable. I think it would be extremely helpful if that restraint continued but I understand the pressures that the Israeli government are under.

    QUESTION:

    Are you confident that all the Scud missile launchers can be found and destroyed?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    We have had a considerable amount of success thus far in finding them and destroying them. Both the United States Air Force and ours have destroyed Scud missile launchers. We cannot of course be precisely sure how many the Iraqis have, they clearly have a substantial number left, the mission to seek them out and destroy them will continue until we are satisfied they have all been found and destroyed.

    QUESTION:

    Do you welcome the undertakings from the Egyptians and Syrians, which come as a surprise I imagine?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I think they are welcome, I think they may come less of a surprise to us than to some others. The Egyptians and the Syrians have been very resolute throughout this whole affair, that was very plain to me when I met President Mubarak in Cairo just 10 days or so ago.

    QUESTION:

    In view of the concern you have expressed today again, will you be in direct contact with Prime Minister Shamir today or tomorrow?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I have sent him two messages over the period of the last few hours, it may well be there will be a further message, but at the moment there is no need for a further message at this moment.

    QUESTION:

    What is your reaction to the fact that a British plane has now taken out one of the Scud missiles?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I am delighted that they have done so, it was found by a British reconnaissance plane and destroyed by the British, I am delighted that that is so. The Americans have had very considerable success, it is now clear that the British are having success as well and we, too, will concentrate on that. It is very important for a large number of self-evident reasons that those Scud missile launchers are destroyed and destroyed as soon as possible.

    QUESTION:

    Are you feeling confident?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I am in absolutely no doubt about the outcome of this conflict, there is absolutely no doubt about that. The outcome of this conflict if Saddam Hussein does not withdraw is that Iraq will be defeated, there is no conceivable doubt about that, but it may take a while before that is satisfactorily concluded.

    QUESTION:

    Are we talking now about weeks? The initial euphoria has obviously gone from people’s minds but should people be settling into thinking now of a conflict in weeks?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    I never indulged myself in that initial euphoria. It was always clear to me that the sheer size and scale of their military arsenal meant that it was likely that it would be sometime before this matter was resolved. You can never be sure in the fog of this sort of conflict precisely how long it will take, we do not know whether the morale of the Iraqi troops will crack, we simply cannot tell about that. But on the understanding that that does not happen then it may be a considerable time before the matter is satisfactorily concluded..

    QUESTION:

    Can you define for us exactly your war aims, you said in the Commons that you hoped that Saddam Hussein would be gone, I think indicating that you hoped internally something might happen to him, but is it simply to liberate Kuwait or is it to do much more damage?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    The aims are set out quite clearly in the Security Council Resolutions, those are the war aims of all of us and I have nothing to add to that.

    QUESTION:

    You are stressing again today in the clearest terms that people should not think this is going to be a short affair. Does the fact that you keep on stressing this point show that perhaps you are more concerned than you are letting on?

    PRIME MINISTER:

    No it does not mean that at all, it is all going very satisfactorily. What it does illustrate is the sheer size and scale of the armour, the men, the airfields, the planes, that the Iraqis have. That is a very considerable arsenal, they have devoted a huge amount of their resources throughout the period of the last decade to building up that arsenal and although there is no way that they will be able to win this conflict, it will take a while before we can fully destroy the arsenal that they have got unless they surrender at some stage before that. And that is the warning that I am making clear to people, they ought not to be concerned about the fact that this conflict continues, it was always likely that it would have to continue for a significant period of time.